Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jun 14, 2018 at 9:08 AM Post #33,601 of 64,226
guys:
if, in a moment of weakness, i were to buy the KZ ES4 AND ED16, what are the best prices on ali today?

The best prices are US$12.50 and US$18.00 respectively. But they are both only seen on the phone app, computer based web browser won't show you those prices.

Good prices loomis....
 
Jun 14, 2018 at 9:20 AM Post #33,603 of 64,226
you are truly evil

Did I forget to mention that?

and i am truly weak.

I am strong! I do not have an ES4...but if it came in red...to match my ZS10...

...holding out for the purple one...yet to be released...

this one:

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Jun 14, 2018 at 10:49 AM Post #33,605 of 64,226
Ali is having mid year sale, and ZS10, Tinaudio T2 is about the same price at about $35, I really want to buy one more, I currently have ZS5v2. ZS6, ES4, E-MI C880 and like C880 the most, which of the three would you recommend to buy in this sale? I want a different sounding and an upgrade over C880, thanks!
 
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Jun 14, 2018 at 11:22 AM Post #33,607 of 64,226
Hey guys. I may have asked this already can't remember. But with the sale going on, I'm curious.

I currently use the ZSR for live performances. Love the low end they give my drums. I also have the zs10 but haven't used them much live.

I keep hearing great things about the Es4. For those that have both, is there much difference between the Es4 and zsr?

I have es3 also that are backups to both my zsr and zs10. Just don't want to buy something and not have too much difference is all. Thanks!
 
Jun 14, 2018 at 11:47 AM Post #33,609 of 64,226
Mr Johnson, just remember this hobby is less costly than collecting classic cars.
we're at war with canada so i can't interact with you lest i commit treason
 
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Jun 14, 2018 at 11:48 AM Post #33,610 of 64,226
Ali is having mid year sale, and ZS10, Tinaudio T2 is about the same price at about $35, I really want to buy one more, I currently have ZS5v2. ZS6, ES4, E-MI C880 and like C880 the most, which of the three would you recommend to buy in this sale? I want a different sounding and an upgrade over C880, thanks!
That's easy...get the ACZ KR06-6 :wink:

Overall, excellent hi-end details/micro-details, crystal clear MID's, and fast punchy bass with excellent soundstage and resolution. Plus, detachable cables!

Link...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...e-SWEET-vocal-sound-Earplug/32880176633.html?
 
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Jun 14, 2018 at 11:49 AM Post #33,611 of 64,226
You are used to 5kHz, that's why the natural dip may sound unnatural....that's all

Do some sine test on waves


And then check your ear is to much damped at 5kHz, you listened songs at loud volume and that to complex tracks having snares....am I right


This issue can be solved by getting earplugs while you sleep or when you are alone....getting ear cleaned by doctor and getting some ear drops or oil, for ear....

Do you have any links/references on the lack of ear damping at 5kHz?

I'm not finding any of this information, in fact the Harman Target Curve shows that we want a 5kHz spike, especially when comparing In-Ear to On-Ear. This implies the pinna resonates around 5kHz, and we would expect a boost here with IEMs that bypass it. Relevant publications: 1 2 3 4. Also corroborates with the pinna-related transfer function method.

EDIT: you may be referring to the ear canal resonance from 7-10kHz that is ear canal depth + insertion depth dependent, and shows up in all IEM plots here but that is noticeably separate, and not something they should really try to compensate for, and they don't, as seen by the KZ plots here, as well as thephonograph and audiobudget, all which have slightly different peaks as expected.
 
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Jun 14, 2018 at 12:01 PM Post #33,615 of 64,226
no, the usa, which useta be a pretty good place before those canadians ruined it with their dairy tariffs

so that is what ruined it... hmmmm....ok.....
 

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