[vladstef]

I'd bet you or close but I'd call it

DD = Low freq
1 BA = Bass / Lower Mid
1 BA = Mid
1 BA = High
1 BA = Ultra High

I say that because KZ has paired the 2 BA High/Ultra High on several occasions before and I don't see them moving away from that part of the arrangement.

I think they pretty much just used 2 of the 30095s in ZS5v2 and ZS6. ZS5v1 had 2 different BAs (one larger for midrange/treble transition that had very little impact overall between 6mm DD and other treble BA). I will be very surprised if they actually did this 5 way crossover, that is quite advanced even for established totl CIEM makers (but they are trying to nail it perfectly, something that KZ doesn't have to attempt). It's even more realistic to use 4 of the same treble BAs which are just playing quietly so that they have more headroom before they start squeaking like BAs do when pushed hard, and we do know that their DDs are all full range drivers and could cover mid range and probably have done in the past.

The most realistic thing though is 2x2 config for mid range and treble with DD covering bass. Simple enough and will probably revolutionize KZ's overlooked mid range in the past.

 

[Wiljen]

This is where the issue lies, especially if they use the 30095 shown in the promotional ZS10 video. The 30095 is not really effective at bass frequencies.

They do make specialized bass BA drivers - Knowles makes a dual BA for sub bass/bass that is used in some multi-BA (only) IEMs. Magaosi K5 is one such example.

But KZ hasn’t used anything like that in the past. Nothing is to say they won’t use one in the future. But dynamic drivers are cheap and effective for that purpose, which is why every KZ has always had at least 1 dynamic driver in every hybrid they’ve ever produced (at least through the end of 2018).

Either way, as soon as they hit the shelf I'll have an order in for one to try out.

 

[bsoplinger]

This is completely off topic but its one of the busier threads I follow and there are a few folks who seem to know their way around the forums.

All this talk about quality music reproduction devices, from IEMs to DAPs to players, etc. All hardware. But what about software? Granted, here and other threads, you can get YouTube links but often to less than high quality sound versions of things. Is there a place here for questions like below. Hopefully someone can point out threads here or another forum. I did look into finding a just cause I'm ready to retire doesn't mean that I can't still love rock forum but didn't find anything

The Electric Light Orchestra before they'd gotten popular played a somewhat different style of music more in line with their name. I remember an album whose title I remember as the night the lights went out in (insert city name here, I don't remember perhaps LA) that has a lot of the typical ELO sound but way more of a classical style and instruments in it. Very reminiscent of other 70's classic orchestra and rock group combinations like the Moody Blues and LSO but done on a smaller scale. Think more chamber music and a few instruments along with the rock ones versus a 100 piece full orchestra. Can anyone help me find what I'm remembering?

 

[nkramer]

bsoplinger, you can do a general web search, to find what album a song was on.

results to looks for….
- discography on wikipedia
- discogs
you could also search in spotify (it’s an app)

from there, it’s just finding that release to purchase.

but to answer your question of the ELO release…. it was an album.

The Night The Lights Went On (In Long Beach) 1974

tracks:
Daybreaker
Showdown
Daytripper
Medley:
In The Hall Of The Mountain King
Great Balls Of Fire
Roll Over Beethoven
Recorded live at the Long Beach Auditorium on the evening of May 12, 1974.

https://www.discogs.com/Electric-Li...e-Light-Went-On-In-Long-Beach/release/2167711
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_the_Light_Went_On_in_Long_Beach

available on amazon: http://a.co/0p4Blo3
HDtracks has some ELO releases, but not that one.

 

[nkramer]

also, i just recently ran across this site "the concert database" (pf-db.com) which is an indispensable tool for filling in the blanks on various ROIO's.
they have a couple concerts listed from '73 - '78 for ELO

(...i'm also a HUGE fan of the late 60's -> early 70's rock)

 

[CoiL]

All this talk about quality music reproduction devices, from IEMs to DAPs to players, etc. All hardware. But what about software? Granted, here and other threads, you can get YouTube links but often to less than high quality sound versions of things. Is there a place here for questions like below.

Yeah, most ppl don`t even think about software (and its processing settings) of their DAPs. There is so much going on with firmware - different file format decodecs etc. That`s why is like modified firmware with my DX50 - only FLAC codec is being used, no internal software "EQ settings", customizeable hardware processing capabilities etc.
You may have great harware player but software can degrade its quality noticeably with all those multifunctional requirements ppl need.

 

[bsoplinger]

Yeah, most ppl don`t even think about software (and its processing settings) of their DAPs. There is so much going on with firmware - different file format decodecs etc. That`s why is like modified firmware with my DX50 - only FLAC codec is being used, no internal software "EQ settings", customizeable hardware processing capabilities etc.
You may have great harware player but software can degrade its quality noticeably with all those multifunctional requirements ppl need.

I don't think what you're talking about isn't valid. In fact the concept of getting beyond the basic gets the bits of the SD card and how does one select those versus others, all the stuff firmware does and moving into the realm of handling those bits specifically for a particular purpose is indeed almost never talked about here.

Unfortunately, what I meant about software was the music, in particular, recordings of music. No talks about recording methodology used. Nothing about obscure music styles that most people are unaware of yet have wonderful sound. Which directly segued into my question of how to track down a particular old album but also how to find music in general also.

 

[CoiL]

Sorry, understood Your post little differently
About finding artist or album - best place would be "what are You listening atm" thread I quess.

 

[nkramer]

just general music discovery....?
- pandora
- last.fm
- A list of online Music Discovery tools (reddit)

i've discovered a handful of really good artists by looking up songs i've heard on shows or movies....

 

[nkramer]

here's one for you.... obscure, sure.... not you cup of tea, possibly... but you're looking for discovery, right?

Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians (wikipedia) (spotify)

 

[TLDRonin]

How well do the ZSRs isolate?


I'm itching to pick up the translucent green. Don't have any earphone headphones with huge soundstage, nor anything that isolates amazingly

 

[fredhubbard2]

here's one for you.... obscure, sure.... not you cup of tea, possibly... but you're looking for discovery, right?

Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians (wikipedia) (spotify)

amazing piece of music ... like some sort of acoustic techno

 

[nkramer]

amazing piece of music ... like some sort of acoustic techno

.... that was released in 1978

 

[B9Scrambler]

.... that was released in 1978

Is that a bad thing?

 

[nkramer]

Is that a bad thing?

no, it's a good thing, ...ahead of it's time.