Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jan 17, 2018 at 12:08 PM Post #26,986 of 64,149
Something weird happening on my mobile setup... I thought my phone couldn't handle the ZST because the volume was way below of any comfort levels. Although today I've noticed if I insert only 2 rings (stereo) it gets the full sound and it's very LOUD but If I connect the mic pin (3rd ring) it sounds lifeless. Has anyone else gotten a similar problem?

I got LG QB3 and Blitlzwolf BW-ES1 which has TRRS connector and mic too but they're working flawlessly just ZST has this problem, somehow very weird...

Not familiar with this problem, but have you checked if you put the cables in in the right orientation? And did you do a phase test?
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 12:08 PM Post #26,987 of 64,149
Something weird happening on my mobile setup... I thought my phone couldn't handle the ZST because the volume was way below of any comfort levels. Although today I've noticed if I insert only 2 rings (stereo) it gets the full sound and it's very LOUD but If I connect the mic pin (3rd ring) it sounds lifeless. Has anyone else gotten a similar problem?

I got LG QB3 and Blitlzwolf BW-ES1 which has TRRS connector and mic too but they're working flawlessly just ZST has this problem, somehow very weird...

Trade the cable for a TRS without a mic and see if it all works right.
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 12:44 PM Post #26,988 of 64,149
Hi Guys,

Was about order some Xiaomi Piston (fresh version) from Gearbest when Is saw the advert for the KZ ZSR Hybrid

https://www.gearbest.com/promotion-kz-earphones-special-1556.html

They seem fancy lookin', and cheap, are they any good? This thread seems to have a lot of posts regarding the 'KZ' earphones, but being a novice audiophile, I mostly have no idea of the language spoken here :p
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 1:00 PM Post #26,989 of 64,149
So some minor complaints with the ZS6 (sorry I can't help it):
  • I think the sound signature just doesn't match with what I'm listening to, which is mainly EDM. Highs sound too sharp and upfront cause usually most EDM tracks emphasize treble for the drums and perc. However when listening to some mainstream pop music like from Bruno Mars, they sound absolutely wonderful with no harsh tonalities.
  • The in-ear fit really isn't that comfortable for prolonged use, or for sleeping in bed with.
  • And also the fit really doesn't isolate background noise well. It actually isolates very poorly, but I barely notice if I turn up the volume and also because its soundstage is just so big
  • The bass is plentiful, however I wish it was just a little bit louder as I'm sort of a basshead.
Overall I don't regret buying it, but I think I'd prefer the ZS5v1 more if was still available.

P.S. This is my 100th post :grin:
 
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Jan 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM Post #26,991 of 64,149
Do the CP220 M2 really sit tight on the nozzle? According to the the pictures on the dunu AE page they have a bore of 4.4mm. And the CP100 M I have bought should have 3.8mm bore according to them, and I managed to get those on the KZ ZS5 as well.

The CP240 looks a bit better with 4mm bore, but the bottom flange is a bit wider.
I noticed the CP220 tend to cost $10-11 for just a single pair, quite expensive and double the price of the CP100. I did notice that NiceHCK sells a box with 1 pair of CP220 M1 + 1 pair of CP220 M2 for $16 together.

I'm also considering the MandarinES Symbio eartips, which go for $15 per 3 pair.
Not sure if I would need the N (3.8mm bore) or W (4.5mm) version though.

Very firm fit! The tubing is made in such a way that there's little flexibility.
I managed to get that NiceHCK CP240x2 (M1 & M2) for 10eu. Gave the M1 away to someone who seems to like it.

I think larger bores are the best for SQ. Mandarins look great but besides ebay I'm not sure where to get them.
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 2:03 PM Post #26,992 of 64,149
Thank you :)

How the zs6 compare to the RHA Ma750i? Mine ma750 broke after almost 4years :frowning2:

Well, well, well, let me guess, they broke where the cable turs into the other material?
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Mine broke there like a year ago, the inner conductor is still conected but I put them to rest since it'll be just a matter of time to broke it without the outer layer.

I've the zs6s and certantly I dont miss the ma750s, they have quite different sound signatures actually but since i havent listened them for a while I don't excatly remember if one is clearly superior than the other.
I think I'm going to do an A/B testing tonight and answer you tomorrow.
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 2:09 PM Post #26,993 of 64,149
I don't know :/ I will look better, but the right driver went really quiet with 0 bass.

I liked them, but sometimes I wanted them to have a little more bass.

Thanks, if you could compare them a little, would be great.
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 2:36 PM Post #26,994 of 64,149
Very firm fit! The tubing is made in such a way that there's little flexibility.
I managed to get that NiceHCK CP240x2 (M1 & M2) for 10eu. Gave the M1 away to someone who seems to like it.

I think larger bores are the best for SQ. Mandarins look great but besides ebay I'm not sure where to get them.

How did you get that price? 11.11 deal?
Not sure if to pick CP220 M1/M2 or CP240 S/M
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 2:49 PM Post #26,995 of 64,149
How did you get that price? 11.11 deal?
Not sure if to pick CP220 M1/M2 or CP240 S/M

Not 11.11 as it was about 3 weeks ago.

As a double flange, I find the twinbaldes CP220 pretty long already. I don't think twinblades are really worth the price as the idea that it will twist inside your ear is pretty normal for a tri or bi flange with deep insertion (I will have to try them tomorrow as it's been CP100 day).

The best tips I've ever had was a soft triflange that came with a brainwavz. I have yet to find anything as good. I might go hunt for some cheap tri/bi flanges on aliexpress.

The CP100 is something that can solve a problem that I had with single flange fit. Less soundstage perhaps compared to my experience with CP220 M2. Got a nice seal but I'm wondering if sibilance isn't worse than with the KZ stocks which have a wider bore. Will go back to the twinblades tomorrow...

For the time being, I stand by my position that wider bores reduce treble peaks on the KZ5. Spinfits (single & double flanged) seem to make it more V shaped, imo. Still great tips but perhaps not the best pairing.

I'm convinced that people who had problems with treble were using small bores...I'm going back to KZ stocks as they are slightly wider. My wide bores don't fit well it unfortunately. TERRIBLE DECISION BY KZ TO NOT INCLUDE LIPS!:rage:
 
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Jan 17, 2018 at 4:45 PM Post #26,996 of 64,149
I got my KZ ZS6 delivered in the mail today, gearbest took only 10 days this time! My eartips are comming by plane also and the benji j5 has allready arrived in my country. I compared the ZS6 to the Philips SHS3300 today with some house/dance for starters and the ZS6 has definatly more low bass and sounds more wide (is that called soundstage? I think so not sure tho). I can actually hear a bass for that matter but luckely not overly present, so they do not feel like a bad purchase at all, because they sound better then a simple philips headphone (premium mainstraim brand in the netherlands). I also like the look & feel of the IEMs, feels like high quality casing but also a bit heavy (which does not have to be a bad thing). In 2 days I will go on a trailrun and see how well they stick in my ears when i am running with the standard tips and the c-foam ones I ordered.
 
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Jan 17, 2018 at 5:32 PM Post #26,997 of 64,149
I just bought the SZ5 and, when connected to my macbook, I can hear a constant hiss. It doesn't change if I turn up or down the volume, but it's loud enough to be heard when I play something. There's some hiss even when connected to the iPhone, but it's way less perceivable. Is that normal or are my SZ5 defective?
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 PM Post #26,998 of 64,149

And you did not tell me! I'm crushed:cry:

I mean they would make my Carbon's and Colorful's get lonely in their cases:open_mouth:

Tri-Braid KZ's.JPG


It's like when I just had to have these DT5's for the Chinese writing on them:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

KZ DT5.JPG
 
Jan 17, 2018 at 6:19 PM Post #26,999 of 64,149
I got my KZ ZS6 delivered in the mail today, gearbest took only 10 days this time! My eartips are comming by plane also and the benji j5 has allready arrived in my country. I compared the ZS6 to the Philips SHS3300 today with some house/dance for starters and the ZS6 has definatly more low bass and sounds more wide (is that called soundstage? I think so not sure tho). I can actually hear a bass for that matter but luckely not overly present, so they do not feel like a bad purchase at all, because they sound better then a simple philips headphone (premium mainstraim brand in the netherlands). I also like the look & feel of the IEMs, feels like high quality casing but also a bit heavy (which does not have to be a bad thing). In 2 days I will go on a trailrun and see how well they stick in my ears when i am running with the standard tips and the c-foam ones I ordered.
10 days to NL? Im waiting on packages from 28 november that has been stuck in poland for almkst a month :xf_eek:
 

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