[raccoon city]

I have a question.
Since it involves KZ IEM's so much, I'll put it in this thread instead of the Chinese / Asian Brand IEM thread.
I have some KZ ES4's that I really like.
I like massive bass, minimal treble, and nice durability.
I think the ES4 fits the bill well.
Also I have ginormous ear holes and the only silicone eartips that fit are these:

Are there any IEM's not made by KZ that are similar to the ES4 for about $15 or less?
(The above ear tips have to fit the IEM in question.)
Oh, yeah, detachable cables are a nice bonus.

 

[RikudouGoku]

What do you guys think about the kz ate/ates, hd9 and the ed4? Anyone worth having in a collection?

Own the zs6, zs7, zsn, zs10 pro, zse, ZS4, edr1, ed9, tin audio t3 and soon the tfz 2019 my love edition

 

[raccoon city]

I have a KZ ATE-S, and it doesn't have enough bass for me.
Also, no detachable cable.

 

[Podster]

What are the Best kz for female vocals or mids focused?

I still love my Carbon ZST's for female vocals but today and with the ZS10 Pro offered I would go with it or even a pair of ZS6's. Of course as I've always said we hear them differently and YMMV! I still say you can't go wrong with any of these 3, other's may even suggest some other KZ models Good luck in your choice

 

[revand]

so it seems like the ZS10 Pro I ordered from ebay was never shipped, and I finally got a refund

I am happy with my ZS7 but i am still very curious about the ZS10 Pro


I am curious how the latest revision ZS5 compares to the ZSN and ZSN Pro in the ~$15 price range

the latest ZS5 is related to one of the ZS6 revisions right?

I do not know what do you mean latest ZS5?
I have a ZS5 from November 2018 and compared it with my ZSN.
I found that the ZS5 is more matured, more engaging in every respect.
A "bigger" sound I would say, however I tried my ZSN with an Astell & Kern Kann and it sounded so good that I didn't believe what I heard. Nowadays for $ 15 KZ ZSN is a very good IEM.

 

[revand]

It must be the ZS12 which was a predictable move by KZ after the all BA AS12

 

[Slater]

Personally, I think it’s going to be awfully hard to top the ZS10 Pro by just adding 1 more BA driver to this “Terminator” model (assuming the tuning is basically the same).

ZS10 Pro = 1DD + 4BA
Terminator = 1DD + 5BA

I sure hope it’s not just a moar drivers is moar better money grab. KZ seems to be doing a lot of that lately, and it’s sad to see people get sucked into that mindset. It’s not like it’s Intel processor cores.

Personally, I’d like to see a nice single dynamic from them (maybe a large diameter beryllium or DLC coated). It would be a breath of fresh air in this ocean of hybrids.

 

[PhonoPhi]

Personally, I think it’s going to be awfully hard to top the ZS10 Pro by just adding 1 more BA driver to this “Terminator” model (assuming the tuning is basically the same).

I sure hope it’s not just a more drivers more better money grab. KZ seems to be doing a lot of that lately, and it’s sad to see people get sucked into that mindset. It’s not like it’s Intel processor cores.

Revisiting all-BAs that I have recently, it is clear evolution in resolution from AS06 to AS10/BA10/A10 to C16 - so far KZ/CCA gave more with more drivers.

Will 6 be much better 5?
Hard to say. I would personally love to see the DD dedicated to sub-bass exclusively, where more air displacement is hard to achieve by BAs.

 

[thebigredpolos]

Personally, I think it’s going to be awfully hard to top the ZS10 Pro by just adding 1 more BA driver to this “Terminator” model (assuming the tuning is basically the same).

ZS10 Pro = 1DD + 4BA
Terminator = 1DD + 5BA

I sure hope it’s not just a moar drivers is moar better money grab. KZ seems to be doing a lot of that lately, and it’s sad to see people get sucked into that mindset. It’s not like it’s Intel processor cores.

Personally, I’d like to see a nice single dynamic from them (maybe a large diameter beryllium or DLC coated). It would be a breath of fresh air in this ocean of hybrids.

Amen to that! That's what I was hoping that "phoenix" model was going to be from that leaked 2018 line up photo at the beginning of last year. Everything else besides that model came out, whether it was from KZ or CCA.

 

[billbishere]

Wow these are great. The one word I keep coming back too about the sound is "refined" . I have the zsr and while the sound is pretty good these are another level. They sound so much more expensive in terms of what a IEM with 5 drivers cost elsewhere..

Oh and using the Sonata HD DAC on these is a perfect pairing

 

[Slater]

Amen to that! That's what I was hoping that "phoenix" model was going to be from that leaked 2018 line up photo at the beginning of last year. Everything else besides that model came out, whether it was from KZ or CCA.

YZ66:


And the YZ63:

 

[mbwilson111]

YZ66:


And the YZ63:

Those look like ones that we were expecting a year ago.

 

[Slater]

Those look like ones that we were expecting a year ago.

Yes, they are the only 2 models that KZ said they were coming out with, but never did. Why they did every single other one (but those 2) is beyond me. Maybe they got busy with the whole CCA thing and forgot. Either way, it’s unfortunate, because I was actually really looking forward to those 2 models.

 

[mbwilson111]

Yes, they are the only 2 models that KZ said they were coming out with, but never did. Why they did every single other one (but those 2) is beyond me. Maybe they got busy with the whole CCA thing and forgot. Either way, it’s unfortunate, because I was actually really looking forward to those 2 models.

I was also interested in those at the time. I thought when you posted the photos that maybe you knew sometime. Too late now... I have bought too many other things by now so I don't really care.

 

[Slater]

Too late now... I have bought too many other things by now so I don't really care.

Haha, totally agree!