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Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread

  1. nkramer
    shy of the pin spacing being .78mm instead of .75mm (KZ) should work fine. just don't try to switch back & forth between this & the KZ .75 cables. there have been other notes in this thread about using .78 cables, it's do-able, but will stretch out the connector some.

    i picked up the smoke/grey KZ cable. http://a.co/d177iza (amazon)
    i also prefer the straight connector as they work with all models without modification (the angled connectors are larger & won't fit some models without modification) i posted pics of the differences a wile back in this thread.
    cable.jpg
     
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  2. nkramer
    nice find. don't think i've seen a black one yet. looks like removing the memory wire would be hard to remove (if you're not a fan of the memory wires)
     
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  3. CoiL
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  4. DocHoliday

    Be aware that those are .78mm and KZ uses .75mm.

    I've not used .78mm on my KZ's yet, but you should still be aware of it. Besides, they look very similar to the TRN cables which are .75mm and cost less.
    I have the black and the white. It's a good cable.

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  5. rayliam80
    Thanks for the heads up. Any noticeable sound quality difference or just for comfort/fashion?
     
  6. CoiL
    To those who got silver "upgrade" cable with angled 2-pin for ZST/ZS3, white rings jack and have measured it having imbalance and high impedance, then, cut off that crappy jack and replace with better like Neutrik NTP3RC-B (though this is almost same price as cable) for example and You get around 0.5 Ohm impedance for R/L/G (multimeter leads resistance of 0.3Ohm already extracted), which is quite good and basically same as stock ZS5/ZS3 teal-color cable, just much more comfy and nicer looking. I also cut down 2-pin plastic "frame" around pins, so it fits my ZS5 like a glove.
    Will post pic later.
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2018
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  7. mbwilson111
    The CM5 is great. I bought mine way before most of the people here just because Amazon UK had a lightning deal and I was intrigued. I only had a couple of other iems at the time. I was afraid to post about them because I assumed I knew nothing and that my thoughts meant nothing. Now I have learned to trust my ears. I could have just stopped with the CM5 and been happy. So why do I have so many other? Because Headfi is bad!
     
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  9. Slater
    Your thoughts, input, experience, and questions are always valued and appreciated.

    Don’t ever hesitate to share your feedback with the community :)
     
    Last edited: Feb 13, 2018
  10. trumpethead
    Yes, I bought 2 of the Cm5 from Amazon at the 8.99 price with the coupon and boy am I glad I did. I absolutely love my ZS5v1 and have no problems with high peaks nor sibilance however the Cm5 is equally good with a different sound Signature. Smooth yet somehow still detailed. Resolution is on par with the ZS5. Nothing in this price range beats the Zs5 in soundstage width but Cm5 soundstage is quite adequate. All told for 8.99 with free 2 day shipping the Cm5 currently stands as my deal of the year for 2018.If you can still get it do it...get two cuz you can only use the coupon on one order. I know I tried to order 2 more lol....Thanks Slater and the rest of you who recommended.
     
  11. Podster
    :wink:
    I might be persuaded to do an amicable trade with you for an original ZS5 and even let you pick between the blue or gray pairs
     
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  12. DocHoliday
    The white TRN cable is still in it's original packaging and thus far the black TRN cable has only been coupled to the TRN you see in the first image, but in general I purchase upgrade cables for quality, comfort, decreased microphonics and aesthetics.

    Hakuzen tested several of the cables (for resistance) that were designed for use with KZ in-ears, but you'll have to ferret that out unless someone else re-posts it here again. Typically, your choice of eartips and your choice of source will have a greater effect on sound shaping than IEM cables. Usually, if changing cables makes a difference there is something else in the equation that is causing it and you'd have to do your due diligence to figure out what it is.

    I ran into this with my ES3 a few pages back, but haven't had a chance to narrow it down yet.
    *** EDIT ***

    I forgot that I saved Hakuzen's info:

    DC resistance of KZ cables (read by DMMs), in ohms (left, right, and ground).

    zst/es3/zsr type (valid for zs3/5/6, sometimes plastic trimming suggested):

    (31) kz plated (4cords,w/transp,black rings)......................0.35/36/40 0.35/37/39 0.35/37/40
    (31) 10065414.jpg


    (38) kz zst/es3(/zs5/zs6+trim) plated+metal plug+6cords...0.42/43/45/52/42/43 0.43/43/45/44/43/44 0.44/43/45/42/44/43

    (38)
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    (06) kz es3 stock mic.........................................................0.66 0.66 0.66-68

    (08) kz zsr stock mic..........................................................0.64 0.64 0.88

    (32) kz plated (4cords,white rings,gearbest)................0.63/76 0.60/62 0.61/83

    (02) kz zst stock mic..........................................................0.95 0.87 0.87

    both types:

    (34) zs3/zs6/zst/es3 colors(orange)...................................0.70 0.70 0.70

    (35) zs3/zs6/zst/es3 colors(gray).......................................0.64 0.79 0.66

    zs3/5/6 type:

    (30) kz zs3/5/6 plated (4cords)..........................................0.67/70 0.67/70 0.67/70

    (40) kz zs3/5/6 ofc plated (4cords,grey,"new",thick coat)...0.69 0.70 0.68

    (40)
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    (07) kz zs6 stock................................................................0.70 0.60 0.39

    (04) kz zs5 stock................................................................0.66 0.63 0.38

    (00) kz zs3 stock mic..........................................................0.84 0.84 0.84

    (35) Grey 2-pin with translucent connectors
    (34) Orange 2-pin with translucent connectors

    (42)
    HTB1z.iLjTvI8KJjSspjq6AgjXXaH.jpg_q85.jpg

    Sorry, I'll have to clarify this TRN cable's measurements.
     
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  13. DocHoliday
    Wow, Pod! PM me with your thoughts and what you have in mind. Is there anything in particular you'd like to have?
     
  14. ahmadfaizadnan
    I have my ZS6 and ZSR for a while now. Read through pages of discussion here made me grab the CM5 and HM7. Decided to give them some comparisons later but in the meantime, just for fun, I plug the ZS6 to my desktop chain with a balanced 3.5mm adapter to 4 pin XLR balanced (my ECP DSHA-0 only has 4 pins balanced output). To my surprise, this is the best combo I had so far with ZS6! I bet it will sound good but when I plug the other IEMs like ZSR, CM5, and HM7, the ZS6 is way superior to any of them. The lacking bass is now present with better bodies and well-controlled; the unnecessary treble went from nasty to amazing but not too warm. The separation and clarity are on par with my Westone 30. The sound fills your ear canal like full-size cans and it has more natural soundstage. No mod applied just a silver cable that has been used for couple months now.
     
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  15. DocHoliday

    I still think the ZS6 was the best deal of 2017 for IEMs. Something to consider when the sub-$50 Knowledge Zenith ZS6 did well in comparisons with the likes of a $400 Westone UM30 and a $400 Noble Audio Trident, though it's all subjective.

    It's food for thought but I don't mind saying the ZS6(i) is a great IEM, especially at under $50.

    Westone UM30
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    Noble Audio Trident
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    KZ ZS6
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