[I2ecreate]

Does the stock tips on the KZ ZS5 get softer over time? I have some sony eartips that are super soft after years of use, but the tube hole (not sure of terminology) is quite a bit smaller so I would think it might affect sound.

 

[CoiL]

Damn Im interested, but Im just afraid they might sound exactly like the KZ ZST

I`m interested too. They probably use ZS5 DD and "same" BA as with ZST or one from ZS5. That would be logical move to get some new buyers but still maintain good SQ, without doing any excess development work on new version. Why else they run it out so fast after ZST and ZS5 (which is darn cheap and very very good SQ depending on source and amping).

 

[CoiL]

Does the stock tips on the KZ ZS5 get softer over time? I have some sony eartips that are super soft after years of use, but the tube hole (not sure of terminology) is quite a bit smaller so I would think it might affect sound.

Actually, older grey version of KZ starline tips seems stiffer slightly than new black ones that come with ZS5.

 

[vector84]

Does the stock tips on the KZ ZS5 get softer over time? I have some sony eartips that are super soft after years of use, but the tube hole (not sure of terminology) is quite a bit smaller so I would think it might affect sound.

The black starlines at least will get much softer after a few weeks of use.

When I first read everyone saying they used stock tips I was... pretty confused too - really, this rock hard chunk of rubber - sure it sounds nice but really?!
But the ones I've been using are much much softer than the boxed pairs I have still sitting around.

 

[SomeTechNoob]

The black starlines at least will get much softer after a few weeks of use.

When I first read everyone saying they used stock tips I was... pretty confused too - really, this rock hard chunk of rubber - sure it sounds nice but really?!
But the ones I've been using are much much softer than the boxed pairs I have still sitting around.

Agreed! Starlines first felt like spikes in my ear. Left em out for a bit and came back to them after about two weeks to find they softened up a bit. Now they fit quite nicely and are even softer.

 

[Fox2twenty]

Hey guys, so.. If price is the same.. Which is better, Alibaba or Gearbest??

 

[Vidal]

Depends on the Ali seller, some are as ropey as ****, some are excellent.

 

[Fox2twenty]

Depends on the Ali seller, some are as ropey as ****, some are excellent.

Thank you. But I just realized Ali doesn't have the Es3. Gearbest it is it seems.

 

[Fox2twenty]

Here is the Gearbest description..

 

[vladstef]

Here is the Gearbest description..

Looks like a small ZST upgrade, but it could go either way from there. It looks nice with this deep purple color but it looks BIG...

 

[Ynot1]

The ZS5 in one of the infographics claims "Can still maintain a certain sensitivity response in 45 KHz frequency"
(gearbest now has the ZS5 listed with 7-46kHz)
The ZSE is listed at 20-45 kHz.

The BA (30095) is one of the ones found in the ZS5 (along with a 1205) - Amazon lists it (the 30095) as the "ultra high treble driver"

(and the ZSE and ZS5 have 10mm DDs in them but that doesn't really mean much)


Kinda seems like it might be the two drivers that some people think dominate the ZS5's output?
(almost like KZ's going - wanna see?!)

So ES3 is ZS5 minus 1205. So the guess would be ES will be more V compare to ZS5 which is more or less light V.

I assumed 90095 is in the same family of 30095. But the thing I read about multi-BAs say fewer BA iem requires the BA to do more work over wider freqs. The ZS5 likely will have better separation while ES3 may get better coherence tuning.

I found the Vivo XE800 besting the Urbanfun where soundstage and acoustical instrument placement was important. The Urbanfun had better bass and clarity, but coherence is out of place. So fewer drivers can offer less challege to get coherence right.

 

[Ynot1]

Hey guys, so.. If price is the same.. Which is better, Alibaba or Gearbest??

Aliexpress does not contribute to this forum.

 

[Fox2twenty]

Aliexpress does not contribute to this forum.

Cool. And they don't have the kz Es3.

 

[Fox2twenty]

Looks like a small ZST upgrade, but it could go either way from there. It looks nice with this deep purple color but it looks BIG...

That's what I'm thinking.. Zst with slight driver upgrade.

 

[Viber]

If you do buy the ES3 from gearbest:

"Coupon: GBCE ( Enjoy 13% off )"