[oliverpool]

I think the iphone 6 dac is pretty good. But I have started using my hifiman 560 and found that I need to drive it at full volume to get ok volume. It still sounds great. But I need a little more volume.  This is where it gets so confusing even after I tried to read up.  
 
As I understand, there is no way to get a analog line out from the lightning connector without actually using the CCK which is a DAC by itself.  I am assuming that the dac in the cck is likely inferior to the dac on the iphone 6?  As the new iphone is on the way, I do not want to be limited in my "dac" choices by the amp/dac device I need to drive my hifiman 560.  If the usual cck convertors to something like the fiio 30 pin to 1/8" cable works to get a actual analog line out with the iphone 6 dac converting it to analog, I guess I am ok.  
 
I hope folks here can explain this to me a little clearly so that I understand how the lightning cable works. thanks! I do not have the CCK but have a 30pin to analog which I use on my ipod and it sounds great with a proper amp (my hifi set)

 

[krismusic]

I think the iphone 6 dac is pretty good. But I have started using my hifiman 560 and found that I need to drive it at full volume to get ok volume. It still sounds great. But I need a little more volume.  This is where it gets so confusing even after I tried to read up.  

As I understand, there is no way to get a analog line out from the lightning connector without actually using the CCK which is a DAC by itself.  I am assuming that the dac in the cck is likely inferior to the dac on the iphone 6?  As the new iphone is on the way, I do not want to be limited in my "dac" choices by the amp/dac device I need to drive my hifiman 560.  If the usual cck convertors to something like the fiio 30 pin to 1/8" cable works to get a actual analog line out with the iphone 6 dac converting it to analog, I guess I am ok.  

I hope folks here can explain this to me a little clearly so that I understand how the lightning cable works. thanks! I do not have the CCK but have a 30pin to analog which I use on my ipod and it sounds great with a proper amp (my hifi set)

I am not technical but yes you are right. You need the adaptor with built in DAC. I use it and can detect no difference between the DAC in the phone and the DAC in the adaptor.

 

[originalsnuffy]

I have no issues with the external dac on the apple adaptor.

My phones have some limitations on sampling rates but that is a system wide specification. But that is why I have other portable audio devices.

 

[swab]

  I think the iphone 6 dac is pretty good. But I have started using my hifiman 560 and found that I need to drive it at full volume to get ok volume. It still sounds great. But I need a little more volume.  This is where it gets so confusing even after I tried to read up.  
 
As I understand, there is no way to get a analog line out from the lightning connector without actually using the CCK which is a DAC by itself.  I am assuming that the dac in the cck is likely inferior to the dac on the iphone 6?  As the new iphone is on the way, I do not want to be limited in my "dac" choices by the amp/dac device I need to drive my hifiman 560.  If the usual cck convertors to something like the fiio 30 pin to 1/8" cable works to get a actual analog line out with the iphone 6 dac converting it to analog, I guess I am ok.  
 
I hope folks here can explain this to me a little clearly so that I understand how the lightning cable works. thanks! I do not have the CCK but have a 30pin to analog which I use on my ipod and it sounds great with a proper amp (my hifi set)

The CCK (Lightning to USB Camera Connector) doesn't contain a DAC.
 
The Lightning to 30-pin Adapter however does contain a DAC.
 
 
 

 

[CocaCola15]

  With all the KaiserTone praise i went ahead and purchased it. The sound quality is awesome via my 6+, but i have one major issue thus far. I cannot get playlists, albums etc to automatically advance to the next track. I manually have to press the forward button. Am i missing something? Is there an option or button i need to select in order for it to do this automatically?

I had the same issue after an update. I am not sure what I did, but all of a sudden it started working.Try resetting the iphone (I have the 6+). I think that worked. My original issue was with the first GUI I had, I could not find a volume control nor advance the track using a swipe motion. Weird. But I love the sound, the EQ capabilities, etc. And I have them all (EQ and players, I mean).

 

[tromboneguy1994]

I used the 6 plus for a white before I got my X5 and the difference was negligible; at least to me.

 

[smaragd]

The CCK (Lightning to USB Camera Connector) doesn't contain a DAC.



The Lightning to 30-pin Adapter however does contain a DAC.

Correct, the 30pin is an analog output and therefor needs the DAC to convert digital to analog.

The Lightning CCK is just a converter to output a digital signal via USB and therefor doesn't need a DAC.

As for the sample rate limitations when using an external DAC it is possible to set higher sample rates in Kaisertone and similar apps provided that the external DAC supports them.

 

[diamondears]

Does anybody know if the iPhone 6 Plus' amp is analog but digitally controlled?

 

[diamondears]

Or is this impossible due to space constraints?

 

[Alje]

^ "Correct, the 30pin is an analog output and therefor needs the DAC to convert digital to analog"
 
If the 30 pin out is analog therefor why would it need a DAC to convert digital to analog ?

 

[Uberclocked]

  ^ "Correct, the 30pin is an analog output and therefor needs the DAC to convert digital to analog"
 
If the 30 pin out is analog therefor why would it need a DAC to convert digital to analog ?

Because it outputs in analog and receives in digital.

 

[Alje]

So what you meant was that  it needs a DAC in the cable connector to convert an incoming digital signal to analogue so the 30 pin idevice can receive the signal (analogue)

 

[Uberclocked]

  So what you meant was that  it needs a DAC in the cable connector to convert an incoming digital signal to analogue so the 30 pin idevice can receive the signal (analogue)

I'm guessing that's what he meant, yes.

 

[oliverpool]

I had the same issue after an update. I am not sure what I did, but all of a sudden it started working.Try resetting the iphone (I have the 6+). I think that worked. My original issue was with the first GUI I had, I could not find a volume control nor advance the track using a swipe motion. Weird. But I love the sound, the EQ capabilities, etc. And I have them all (EQ and players, I mean).

Do you know or can test kaiser tone can play apple music files that are downloaded? It seems like onkyo player and canopener cannot and they report that it's a drm protected file or something.

 

[smaragd]

Do you know or can test kaiser tone can play apple music files that are downloaded? It seems like onkyo player and canopener cannot and they report that it's a drm protected file or something.

Yes, it plays both my FLAC files from the HD library my purchased iTunes songs in the ipod library.