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[napmonstr]

Anybody run into issues with filters getting stuck in the small metal cylinder case for them? Was trying to swap filters out and put them back in but they seem... too tight? Not sure if there's a good way to get it out without damaging either the case or the filter..

 

[harry501501]

  Anybody run into issues with filters getting stuck in the small metal cylinder case for them? Was trying to swap filters out and put them back in but they seem... too tight? Not sure if there's a good way to get it out without damaging either the case or the filter..

eat spinach

 

[Podster]

eat spinach

Never had the problem, mine only hold two pair and they are loose in the can. Did you jam them in? I'd use a needle around the side and see if you can dislodge it

 

[ljnew]

Just got the Delta's and they sound great!  I'm using my lgv10.
 
I have the Audio Technica ath-ckr10 as well with the dual phase push pull tecnology.  Thier the iems to beat in my humble opinion.  I also compare every headphone to the audio technicas.
 
The Bass sounds good on the Delta's but not as good as the ckr10. Some reputable people say the bass is better than the se846. I'm not a basshead but i like nice clean bass.  
 
After listening to the ckr10s, it's hard to listen to something else because i find headphones usually lack something the Audio-Technicas provide.  
 
The ckr10s are louder and fuller, but the trick, I believe is the push pull tech.  Something about the ckr10s respond freakishly well to amplification like no other.  It really shines with amplification. It doesnt get distorted no matter how loud you turn it up.  Youll go def before you hear distortion.  The bass is very tight and clean all the time! 
 
 
I'm not saying the ckr10 is better than the deltas, but the bass on the ckr10 is; so far anyway.  I don't believe that's going to change with time. 
 
The ckr10 has detail that's so good it's irritating.  I can hear the artist in the studio talking and repeating verses like never before.  I couldn't hear this level of detail with the $800 sennheiser ie800.  What's even more frustrating is the fact that you start to crave the detail if you listen to other headphones.  It's sort of like a love hate relationship, you can't live with it and can't live without it.
 
On the other hand, the Deltas have some really good detail and sounds nice and crisp as well.  I can't really tell you which one is better yet. That's a very good sign for a new pair of headphones.  
 
Sound isolation is probably the best I've heard so far on the ckr10.  The volume on my "souped up" lgv10 goes up to 75.  I cant get the dial pass 25 with amplification.  I live in Chicago and downtown on the main street I hear nothing.  I'm taking the delta for a walk now to see how it compares.
 
I say this to say I'm looking forward to the Sabre as its supposed to use the same push pull tech.  I'm hoping that it will beat or at least match the ckr10 on nice clean and deep bass.
 
@Bobtrinity No pressure..

 

[jithu215]

Just got the Delta's and they sound great!  I'm using my lgv10.

I have the Audio Technica ath-ckr10 as well with the dual phase push pull tecnology.  Thier the iems to beat in my humble opinion.  I also compare every headphone to the audio technicas.

The Bass sounds good on the Delta's but not as good as the ckr10. Some reputable people say the bass is better than the se846. I'm not a basshead but i like nice clean bass.  

After listening to the ckr10s, it's hard to listen to something else because i find headphones usually lack something the Audio-Technicas provide.  

The ckr10s are louder and fuller, but the trick, I believe is the push pull tech.  Something about the ckr10s respond freakishly well to amplification like no other.  It really shines with amplification. It doesnt get distorted no matter how loud you turn it up.  Youll go def before you hear distortion.  The bass is very tight and clean all the time! 


I'm not saying the ckr10 is better than the deltas, but the bass on the ckr10 is; so far anyway.  I don't believe that's going to change with time. 

The ckr10 has detail that's so good it's irritating.  I can hear the artist in the studio talking and repeating verses like never before.  I couldn't hear this level of detail with the $800 sennheiser ie800.  What's even more frustrating is the fact that you start to crave the detail if you listen to other headphones.  It's sort of like a love hate relationship, you can't live with it and can't live without it.

On the other hand, the Deltas have some really good detail and sounds nice and crisp as well.  I can't really tell you which one is better yet. That's a very good sign for a new pair of headphones.  

Sound isolation is probably the best I've heard so far on the ckr10.  The volume on my "souped up" lgv10 goes up to 75.  I cant get the dial pass 25 with amplification.  I live in Chicago and downtown on the main street I hear nothing.  I'm taking the delta for a walk now to see how it compares.
 
I say this to say I'm looking forward to the Sabre as its supposed to use the same push pull tech.  I'm hoping that it will beat or at least match the ckr10 on nice clean and deep bass.

@Bobtrinity
 No pressure..

Can you compare e40 with ckr10 and delta

 

[ljnew]

Can you compare e40 with ckr10 and delta

Thats a good question.
 
No I can't, but it looks the ckr10 has the better specs and it's almost twice the price, so I would expect the ckr10 to sound better.  Of course I have to hear them to know for sure.
 
I think the e40 might be newer though. 

 

[Mr Trev]

@Podster
 
Was just looking for a general impression about the differences/improvements and if it was/is really worth trading up. I know Peter had some reservations regarding the midbass on the gen1. Are they using new drivers? Thought I read that they were supposed to be the same drivers, but really can't remember. Hows the additional filters? - I prefer the gold on mine.
 
Personally, I didn't think the the upgrade was going to be a big enough difference to bother trading in. Then along came news of the Phantom. And the Sabre… this Bob guy really knows how to get us to empty our bank accounts

 

[pedronet]

  @Podster
 
Was just looking for a general impression about the differences/improvements and if it was/is really worth trading up. I know Peter had some reservations regarding the midbass on the gen1. Are they using new drivers? Thought I read that they were supposed to be the same drivers, but really can't remember. Hows the additional filters? - I prefer the gold on mine.
 
Personally, I didn't think the the upgrade was going to be a big enough difference to bother trading in. Then along came news of the Phantom. And the Sabre… this Bob guy really knows how to get us to empty our bank accounts

 
I'm sorry to jump in, can't answer your question because i don't have any of those (v2 on the way though) but i can tell you that they use different drivers. 1st gen was BA+8mm, and now they use BA+7mm as referred in this post from the delta's thread:
 

 

Anyone have the Deltav1 or Atlas that can compare/contrast audio impressions with the new Delta v2?

Bob, this new Delta has a new 7mm driver, right?

Thats correct sir

 

[Podster]

I'm sorry to jump in, can't answer your question because i don't have any of those (v2 on the way though) but i can tell you that they use different drivers. 1st gen was BA+8mm, and now they use BA+7mm as referred in this post from the delta's thread:

THX pedro, I was about to tell T I had not even read the difference in drivers but I do know they have a richer and fuller sound. I thought before I ordered the DV2 whether it was hype but now I'm glad I decided on the upgrade because it truly is an upgrade not just the " New and Improved" rubber stamp

 

[nealh]

THX pedro, I was about to tell T I had not even read the difference in drivers but I do know they have a richer and fuller sound. I thought before I ordered the DV2 whether it was hype but now I'm glad I decided on the upgrade because it truly is an upgrade not just the " New and Improved" rubber stamp

Pretty sure thats not the way Bob will do things.  No rubber stamps. He will always look for ways to improve the sound signature before releasing a product.  my humble opinion from what I am reading and seeing here.
 
I must say he is setting the bar very high for future products!

 

[PxOR]

damn if i see the filters coming i wouldn't cancel that extra vyrus.

 

[mohdkhamsya]

Hi everyone. Been eyeing the Trinity line of hybrid iems. There is an awesome deal for the Master 4 at the moment, if anyone wasn't aware. I've tried some pretty well regarded hybrids - Dunu DN2000, UM Merlin, Astrotecs among others - and I realized quite a bit later that with the exception of the Merlins, hybrids are typically not as coherent as some multi armature or single dynamic driver iems. Even the DN2000 didn't cut it for me. I was wondering how the Trinity hybrid iems fared so far in terms of coherency. The reviews I read didn't say much about this. Also, considering that I usually lean towards a balanced sound (I especially dislike V shaped sound signatures), which iems in the Trinity lineup would be good for me. Thank you fellow Head Fiers.  

 

[pedronet]

  Hi everyone. Been eyeing the Trinity line of hybrid iems. There is an awesome deal for the Master 4 at the moment, if anyone wasn't aware. I've tried some pretty well regarded hybrids - Dunu DN2000, UM Merlin, Astrotecs among others - and I realized quite a bit later that with the exception of the Merlins, hybrids are typically not as coherent as some multi armature or single dynamic driver iems. Even the DN2000 didn't cut it for me. I was wondering how the Trinity hybrid iems fared so far in terms of coherency. The reviews I read didn't say much about this. Also, considering that I usually lean towards a balanced sound (I especially dislike V shaped sound signatures), which iems in the Trinity lineup would be good for me. Thank you fellow Head Fiers.  

Well, i'm no pro and the only trinity iem that i have is the delta v2, which is in fact a hybrid. In terms of coherency i think they're great. The filters allow you to adjust the signature from a extreme v-shape to a nearly balanced signature. Hence the beauty of the filters.
There's no way to go wrong with them unless you have a preference for a strictly perfect balanced signature, a preference for a totally different signature that the filters can't offer or sensitivity to BAs.
 
As for the masters I can't really tell you since they're not out yet but, if it helps, i know one of the issues with coherency is the use of crossovers and the masters don't use them.

 

[mohdkhamsya]

  Well, i'm no pro and the only trinity iem that i have is the delta v2, which is in fact a hybrid. In terms of coherency i think they're great. The filters allow you to adjust the signature from a extreme v-shape to a nearly balanced signature. Hence the beauty of the filters.
There's no way to go wrong with them unless you have a preference for a strictly perfect balanced signature, a preference for a totally different signature that the filters can't offer or sensitivity to BAs.
 
As for the masters I can't really tell you since they're not out yet but, if it helps, i know one of the issues with coherency is the use of crossovers and the masters don't use them.

 
 
Hey there. Thanks for your reply. Really appreciate it. Could you describe the tone of the Delta V2, maybe compare it to some of the other iems you own? Thank you. 
 
So the master 4 has 2 hybrids and 2 armature units and there is no crossover? Sounds like how the Aurisonics ASG1+ iems in terms of engineering. I wonder what the advantages of having multiple drivers no crossover drivers are. Anyone can chime in?
 
Anyway people seem to be very happy with the DeltaV2. I almost bought one but then the master 4 was announced and their prices isn't that much different. Any idea if people are going to review them soon? Loaner units floating around I presume? 

 

[pedronet]

   
 
Hey there. Thanks for your reply. Really appreciate it. Could you describe the tone of the Delta V2, maybe compare it to some of the other iems you own? Thank you. 
 
So the master 4 has 2 hybrids and 2 armature units and there is no crossover? Sounds like how the Aurisonics ASG1+ iems in terms of engineering. I wonder what the advantages of having multiple drivers no crossover drivers are. Anyone can chime in?
 
Anyway people seem to be very happy with the DeltaV2. I almost bought one but then the master 4 was announced and their prices isn't that much different. Any idea if people are going to review them soon? Loaner units floating around I presume? 

 
A lot of questions x) well i did a write up of my impressions when i bought the deltas (link). I did my best describing the sound. You can find some graphs of the delta too (link), when @Brooko measured them. They helped me a lot.
 
Since there are too many filters, it's difficult to find a specific IEM of mine that match these (the filters really change it a lot), specially because the only hybrid I have now is the xiaomi hybrid and it's completely different since the xiaomi had a really laid back treble. I had the DN1000 but it was a long time ago and i remember that i complained a lot about sibilance, it doesn't happen with the deltas.
 
About the crossovers, Bob said this:
 

On a serious note we didnt need them to seperate any frequencies as we do this physically by the internal tubes that separate off each driver section and also we was very carefull what armatures we used. We tried lots and went with sonion armatures and we have 1 dual armature using acupass tech just for the highs and upper mids and 1 dual armature which is a massive woofer unit, coupled to our titanium driver push pull system for something very different to the rest of the crowd 

 

This is for the master 6 of course.
 
The master 4 is on pre-order now, the only one who can probably help you is either Bob or one of the headfiers who helped tuning it.
 
I hope i helped a little 

 
 
EDIT: Oh i almost forgot, this seems important too, since you're checking both delta and master 4. In a question that mentioned how were the master 4 compared to the deltas, here's the answer:
 

I will answer this as simplistic as i can then.

The 4 is the dv2 on steriods with better bass.