[DoubleEs]

You guys are lucky G0 stepping of the Q66 are already available in the US, because they've not even landed in the UK yet let alone available to buy!!

 

[Possede]

I'm building a new computer, as the current one is a five-year-old piece of crap. However, I am unable to decide between the Intel Q6600 and E6850. I will be using the computer to play games, browse the internet, listen to music, etc.

Components I'm looking at:

Silverstone TJ09 Case
nForce 680i Motherboard
nVidia 8800 GTX 768Mb
OCZ 2GB (2x1Gb) PC2-6400C4 Dual Channel Platinum XTC Series DDR2 (x2 = 4Gb)
250Gb 7200RPM Hitachi Harddrive
HP Optical DVD Drive (x2)
Enermax Infiniti 650W Powersupply
Windows Vista Ultimate
24" Dell Display

I'm trying to go with decent components to reduce the amount of upgrading I will need to do later in the future. Just wondering, as the two processors are similarly priced, what should I go for? I'm going to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler to replace the stock one.

Thanks,
Possédé

 

[chesebert]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron_Dreamer /img/forum/go_quote.gif Coming from an A64 3200+, my current E6420@3.2GHz is just mindblowingly fast, and I certainly don't need any more speed for Photoshop right now. Considering that my current cam's RAW files are 18MB, I don't see much need for more speed any time soon, either. Dual-core in general is such a godsend, i.e. being able to encode WAV to FLAC and to MP3 simultaneously!

what's your vcore on that 3.2Ghz OC? and load temp?

 

[chesebert]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Possédé /img/forum/go_quote.gif I'm building a new computer, as the current one is a five-year-old piece of crap. However, I am unable to decide between the Intel Q6600 and E6850. I will be using the computer to play games, browse the internet, listen to music, etc. Components I'm looking at: Silverstone TJ09 Case nForce 680i Motherboard nVidia 8800 GTX 768Mb OCZ 2GB (2x1Gb) PC2-6400C4 Dual Channel Platinum XTC Series DDR2 (x2 = 4Gb) 250Gb 7200RPM Hitachi Harddrive HP Optical DVD Drive (x2) Enermax Infiniti 650W Powersupply Windows Vista Ultimate 24" Dell Display I'm trying to go with decent components to reduce the amount of upgrading I will need to do later in the future. Just wondering, as the two processors are similarly priced, what should I go for? I'm going to buy an aftermarket CPU cooler to replace the stock one. Thanks, Possédé

get a cheap C2D/p35 wait for 45nm Quad. (many upgrades from the 65nm chip, something like 30-40% faster clock for clock, IIRC)

 

[Possede]

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif get a cheap C2D/p35 wait for 45nm Quad. (many upgrades from the 65nm chip, something like 30-40% faster clock for clock, IIRC)

Wouldn't buying the new 45nm (Due Q4/07?) mean needing to buy a new motherboard? Sorry, I'm kind of underknowledged.

 

[chesebert]

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Originally Posted by wanderman /img/forum/go_quote.gif I picked up a p35 mobo and a q6600. Just need a 3ghz oc and I will be happy. With the mobo I will be able to upgrade when the new 45 nm appear and when ddr3 is no bad. the q6600 are supposed to be a pita to oc because they get so hot. edit: oh snap...new egg is still selling the old b3 steppings, I wonder if it is too late to cancel my order. I want g0 edit2: hmm I think I may just get the e6850 and oc to 4ghz and wait for the 45nm's edit3: but the quad will be better for folding. Bah. edit4: looks like I am going to wait. http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8074 . gg intel amd is getting stomped.

Those Penryn prices are killer. Make sure your mobo is good enough for it. ie FSB can be clocked to atleast 450Mhz, because those Penryn have low multi e.g. E5420 would have only 7.5X. So basically in 6 month you can buy a quad core that's 100Mhz faster than Q6600 and on average 40% faster clock for clock, and it can probably OC like crazy, although I am not confident on pushing those 45nm with too much vcore (I will let the suicide groups go first

, as the gate oxide level at 45nm can probably be counted by the num of atoms...LOL

 

[chesebert]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Possédé /img/forum/go_quote.gif Wouldn't buying the new 45nm (Due Q4/07?) mean needing to buy a new motherboard? Sorry, I'm kind of underknowledged.

IIRC, most P35 mobo will support the 45nm (IIRC again, they do have similar current requirements as the Conroes, just a die shrink and some optimizations). Someone correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Possede]

Quote:

Originally Posted by chesebert /img/forum/go_quote.gif IIRC, most P35 mobo will support the 45nm (IIRC again, they do have similar current requirements as the Conroes, just a die shrink and some optimizations). Someone correct me if I am wrong.

So, what would be the better choice;
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MB-001-BG
or
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...-237-AS&tool=3

given the components I listed. I'm kind of confused.

Sorry, I didn't want to start a new thread, sorry to threadjack a little.

EDIT:
I noticed the ASUS P5K3 uses DDR3 memory, which I won't be using as it costs quite a bit (£330 for 2Gb). I think I'll just stick with the 680i nForce and get a Intel Q6600 and overclock it to 3GHz. Sound alright?

 

[chesebert]

no idea, but if given a choice, I would reckon Intel knows their chips the best, so I always pick intel chipset to go with their cpu. But if you must SLI, then Nvidia is the only solution, I don't know if 680i officially support the 45nm chip; OTHT p35 does officially support the new chip.

 

[darkninja67]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shizelbs /img/forum/go_quote.gif Is there something special about the new Intel C2D chips that allow them to be overclocked with such ease? I haven't followed hardware and computers for a while now, but I can't remember about people overclocking so easily and so prevelantly.

The C2D remind me of the 1.6A and 2.4B/C Northwood Pentiums. They scaled high and on fairly low increases in voltage. These processors are just cake to overclock and get a 50%+ gain in speed.

 

[darkninja67]

Here is a good link for Asus motherboard owners: http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

Great to see that my P5B Deluxe Wifi/AP is Penryn compatible. Thank you Intel and Asus.

 

[Possede]

Yep, looks like I'll get an Asus P5K Deluxe Motherboard. 45nm compatible and uses DDR2 memory. Wayhey.

Thanks for your input, chesebert.

 

[wanderman]

when are you getting your computer. If you are going to wait for 45nm, wait for the x38 mobos. P35 can't do sli.

Silverstone TJ09 Case
nForce 680i Motherboard (change mobo to p35 or x38)
nVidia 8800 GTX 768Mb
OCZ 2GB (2x1Gb) PC2-6400C4 Dual Channel Platinum XTC Series DDR2 (x2 = 4Gb) (Look for ram that runs at default ddr volts 1.8)
250Gb 7200RPM Hitachi Harddrive
HP Optical DVD Drive (x2)
Enermax Infiniti 650W Powersupply (get the corsair 620 watt)
Windows Vista Ultimate
24" Dell Display

If you get the 680i and 4 dimms of ram prepare for system instability and and bad over clock.

all p35,g33,g35, and x38 will support the 45nm yorkfield and wolfdale chips

edit: picture from a review of the p35 gigabyte mobo I bought. 505fsb ftw

 

[Possede]

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderman /img/forum/go_quote.gif when are you getting your computer. If you are going to wait for 45nm, wait for the x38 mobos. P35 can't do sli. Silverstone TJ09 Case nForce 680i Motherboard (change mobo to p35 or x38) nVidia 8800 GTX 768Mb OCZ 2GB (2x1Gb) PC2-6400C4 Dual Channel Platinum XTC Series DDR2 (x2 = 4Gb) (Look for ram that runs at default ddr volts 1.8) 250Gb 7200RPM Hitachi Harddrive HP Optical DVD Drive (x2) Enermax Infiniti 650W Powersupply (get the corsair 620 watt) Windows Vista Ultimate 24" Dell Display If you get the 680i and 4 dimms of ram prepare for system instability and and bad over clock. all p35,g33,g35, and x38 will support the 45nm yorkfield and wolfdale chips edit: picture from a review of the p35 gigabyte mobo I bought. 505fsb ftw

Hey wanderman,
I'm hoping to start buying the components around the 7-8th August and build it in time for my birthday (11th August). So, I will be sticking with the 65nm chips for just now.

What does the Consair HX 620W PSU offer over the Enermax Infiniti 650W, they both seem to get good reviews (overclockers.co.uk). Better bang for the buck?

So, would the Asus P5K Deluxe Motherboard be a better alternative to the nForce 680i Motherboard, and why?

What type of RAM would that be? The one I stated has a voltage rating between 1.9V - 2V. So, what would you recommend for a system like this?

Thank you,
Possédé

 

[HiGHFLYiN9]

I agree about switching over to the p35, although they only support Crossfire and not SLI if you are planning to upgrade to a dual vid card setup in the future. From what I read, the Enermax Infiniti is an incredible PSU with very low ripple, however with some users with newer homes report it trips the circuit breaker.

I've read a number of recommendations for the ABIT IP35 Pro mobo, so it's probably a good way to go. The Gigabyte P35s are currently some of the best overclockers if you need to squeeze max performance out of your cores.

I was hoping to build a setup when this pricedrop hit but Vista performance still isn't where it needs to be, and I don't want to build a new setup using XP or dual boot, so I'll just keep on waiting