iFi audio ZEN Stream - Streaming elevated to a higher plane
Mar 27, 2022 at 5:06 PM Post #3,872 of 5,913
I don't think it's going to happen tomorrow... like many manufacturers, it's going to be a difficult time. I think we'll be living on the stocks of machines produced... for a while.

For the limitation... maybe on the side of the usb chipset but it doesn't seem upgradable by firmware (ViaLabs).

But I like to be surprised !
 
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Mar 28, 2022 at 7:51 AM Post #3,873 of 5,913
@iFi audio , is there some way to see two zen streams in the app? I bought a second zen stream to connect a hard drive to. Right now the app keeps getting confused. It crashes, sometimes seeing the zen stream connected to my dacs and sometimes seeing the one connected to the HD.
 
Mar 28, 2022 at 11:43 AM Post #3,874 of 5,913
@iFi audio , is there some way to see two zen streams in the app? I bought a second zen stream to connect a hard drive to. Right now the app keeps getting confused. It crashes, sometimes seeing the zen stream connected to my dacs and sometimes seeing the one connected to the HD.
Yes you can, but you need to name them differently, for example mine are iFi and iFi2.

Then in the app to pick which ones you need to go here and type the name...
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And then here and tap on the host url address...

It will refresh and you will be on your other unit!

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Nott ideal but it works!!

Cheers!!
 
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Mar 28, 2022 at 11:50 AM Post #3,875 of 5,913
Feature request for IFI. Would it please be possible to remove the 384khz limitation and go all the way up to 768 kHz? The reason for asking is that I have found the benifits of upsampling on my specific dac and they are huge. Please let me know, thank you

Not for the Zen Stream, unfortunately!

No.. perhaps with Zen Stream V2 or Signature :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

I'd be down if ifi did a signature version

Perhaps with ifi elite ps built in and any hardware / software improvements that are possible

699 - 799

Appreciate the suggestions, guys!

@iFi audio , is there some way to see two zen streams in the app? I bought a second zen stream to connect a hard drive to. Right now the app keeps getting confused. It crashes, sometimes seeing the zen stream connected to my dacs and sometimes seeing the one connected to the HD.

Yes you can, but you need to name them differently, for example mine are iFi and iFi2.

Then in the app to pick which ones you need to go here and type the name...
4D947965-839C-423D-81C3-63564FCDC045.png And then here and tap on the host url address...

It will refresh and you will be on your other unit!

0369FD57-11CB-4D19-9F8C-871372DD6BFE.jpeg

Nott ideal but it works!!

Cheers!!

I'll ask if there's an official non-workaround way we can do this!
 
Mar 28, 2022 at 10:33 PM Post #3,876 of 5,913
Yes you can, but you need to name them differently, for example mine are iFi and iFi2.

Then in the app to pick which ones you need to go here and type the name...
4D947965-839C-423D-81C3-63564FCDC045.png And then here and tap on the host url address...

It will refresh and you will be on your other unit!

0369FD57-11CB-4D19-9F8C-871372DD6BFE.jpeg

Nott ideal but it works!!

Cheers!!
Thanks!
 
Mar 30, 2022 at 4:48 AM Post #3,877 of 5,913
Another issue i have come across is that the zen stream won't allow me to select dsd direct. Every time I select dsd direct from the drop down menu in the ifi app and hit save, it reverts to dsd over dop. I've got a gustard x26 pro connected to the zen stream which is capable of dsd native.
 
Mar 30, 2022 at 9:05 AM Post #3,878 of 5,913
Another issue i have come across is that the zen stream won't allow me to select dsd direct. Every time I select dsd direct from the drop down menu in the ifi app and hit save, it reverts to dsd over dop. I've got a gustard x26 pro connected to the zen stream which is capable of dsd native.
No problem here with a Topping D50 dac.
Could it be a setting on the Gustard dac?
Are you using USB?
 

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Mar 30, 2022 at 9:23 AM Post #3,879 of 5,913
Another issue i have come across is that the zen stream won't allow me to select dsd direct. Every time I select dsd direct from the drop down menu in the ifi app and hit save, it reverts to dsd over dop. I've got a gustard x26 pro connected to the zen stream which is capable of dsd native.
I also have no issue with DSD Direct, this screenshot is from the currently connected iFi Zen DAC signature, but I have other Dac's including a Gustard X16 which I just sold, that had boo issue that I remeber.

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Wish I could be more help but I believe I own only one True DSD recording!

Cheers!!
 
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Mar 30, 2022 at 10:03 AM Post #3,880 of 5,913
Since we don't have all the information (hardware limitations), it is very likely that the limit to PCM 384 and therefore DSD128 for dac's that go through dop mode is a kernel problem.
It would be really nice to have all the information to push "Optimised open-source architecture" to the maximum.
When will a new kernel be released ?
 
Mar 30, 2022 at 4:39 PM Post #3,881 of 5,913
Another issue i have come across is that the zen stream won't allow me to select dsd direct. Every time I select dsd direct from the drop down menu in the ifi app and hit save, it reverts to dsd over dop. I've got a gustard x26 pro connected to the zen stream which is capable of dsd native.
Are you using USB or SPDIF? You need USB for DSD direct.
From IFI q/a:
“The ZEN Stream has two outputs, USB and S/PDIF coaxial. The coaxial output complies with S/PDIF standards with a maximum frequency of 192kHz for existing and older DACs.
You can also play DSD files up to DSD128 through the coaxial output – it converts them to PCM 192kHz.”
 
Mar 31, 2022 at 4:36 AM Post #3,883 of 5,913
The new beta firmware has been updated and is now Roon Ready, what are the advantages of this?
2.31.4 -- Roon Ready released.
Advantages? The Zen now works with Roon only via SPDIF in Roon Mode 2 while on the generic Mode 1 you can run either one. I have been playing in Roon Mode 2 over USB for many months now but with this firmware that's not an option for me, it does not work. Roon does see the Zen only as a SPDIF or USB output device, not both as previously was the case.
 
Mar 31, 2022 at 7:49 AM Post #3,885 of 5,913
Beta after beta issue still arise as it fix something and break something. I think the next stream will have most this issue resolve with volumio 3. Reason I think volumio move to v3 as it was written the code from ground up and up to date features and security.
 

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