If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...
May 18, 2019 at 8:39 AM Post #13,306 of 19,251
I don’t have the ER3SE, but I recently got the ER2SE. I held off on the ER4 series because I tend not to like the balanced armature sound, so when I found out the ER2 series would have dynamic drivers, I had to get one. I’m sure glad I did because the ER2SE have incredible clarity and detail across the frequency range. And, they don’t have that added harmonic distortion the ER4 has in the midrange due to the BA driver. I enjoy the stock sound of the ER2SE, but I enjoy them even more with some EQ. Reducing the upper mids a bit made them perfect for me. I find the midrange kind of forward stock. And my daily driver is an HD600.
Harmonic distortion the ER4 has in the midrange due to the BA driver? Can you elaborate?
 
May 18, 2019 at 9:54 AM Post #13,307 of 19,251
I don’t have the ER3SE, but I recently got the ER2SE. I held off on the ER4 series because I tend not to like the balanced armature sound, so when I found out the ER2 series would have dynamic drivers, I had to get one. I’m sure glad I did because the ER2SE have incredible clarity and detail across the frequency range. And, they don’t have that added harmonic distortion the ER4 has in the midrange due to the BA driver. I enjoy the stock sound of the ER2SE, but I enjoy them even more with some EQ. Reducing the upper mids a bit made them perfect for me. I find the midrange kind of forward stock. And my daily driver is an HD600.

So, you held off on getting the ER4 series Not sure you can be taken seriously if you draw conclusions about IEMs that you have never listened to....

Still waiting for legitimate comparisons between the lower end models and the flagship line.
 
May 18, 2019 at 1:48 PM Post #13,308 of 19,251
I went ahead and splurged on a 4.4mm balanced cable from Plus sound audio for $150. I was looking around at some on AliExpress for around $40-$50, but I really didn't trust the quality. Wasted a few days researching. I just said screw it! Feel kinda stupid buying cables that cost more then the actual iem. Oh well. At least I don't have to think about it anymore.

http://plussoundaudio.com/customcables/inearmonitor.html
 
May 18, 2019 at 8:44 PM Post #13,309 of 19,251
I went ahead and splurged on a 4.4mm balanced cable from Plus sound audio for $150. I was looking around at some on AliExpress for around $40-$50, but I really didn't trust the quality. Wasted a few days researching. I just said screw it! Feel kinda stupid buying cables that cost more then the actual iem. Oh well. At least I don't have to think about it anymore.

http://plussoundaudio.com/customcables/inearmonitor.html

I didn't find any info on their page so I hope that cable's MMCX connectors are compatible with Ety (which uses a special version that many regular MMCX connectors will not fit), otherwise that's gonna be quite a waste of money.
 
May 18, 2019 at 9:50 PM Post #13,310 of 19,251
I didn't find any info on their page so I hope that cable's MMCX connectors are compatible with Ety (which uses a special version that many regular MMCX connectors will not fit), otherwise that's gonna be quite a waste of money.
Yes when you custom built one they have an option to select with a etymotic mmcx connector. Thank you for pointing that out.
 
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May 19, 2019 at 9:34 AM Post #13,311 of 19,251
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Package arrived a early :)

First impressions: Don't like them. I based my purchase on the ER2SE on the early reviews on Massdrop and frequency response graph that showed the ER2SE having a strong low-end, so I figured the ER2XR would have been "too much", but based on this few initial hours, to me, the ER2SE lack the tight, lower end bass on the ER4XR.
 
May 19, 2019 at 9:49 AM Post #13,312 of 19,251
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Package arrived a early :)

First impressions: Don't like them. I based my purchase on the ER2SE on the early reviews on Massdrop and frequency response graph that showed the ER2SE having a strong low-end, so I figured the ER2XR would have been "too much", but based on this few initial hours, to me, the ER2SE lack the tight, lower end bass on the ER4XR.
What are you using to drive them? Maybe if you feed it more power to see if the bass would improve? Thanks for the update.

Edit: I see you have a btr3
 
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May 19, 2019 at 10:18 AM Post #13,313 of 19,251
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Package arrived a early :)

First impressions: Don't like them. I based my purchase on the ER2SE on the early reviews on Massdrop and frequency response graph that showed the ER2SE having a strong low-end, so I figured the ER2XR would have been "too much", but based on this few initial hours, to me, the ER2SE lack the tight, lower end bass on the ER4XR.

Apologies if you already mentioned it before, but where did you get those cables for your ER4XR? How does it compare to stock?
 
May 19, 2019 at 10:23 AM Post #13,314 of 19,251
What are you using to drive them? Maybe if you feed it more power to see if the bass would improve? Thanks for the update.

Edit: I see you have a btr3
Yup, driving them with the FiiO BTR3. I will keep trying them on for a little while longer, but will likely not keep them and try to buy the XR version instead.
 
May 19, 2019 at 10:26 AM Post #13,316 of 19,251
Apologies if you already mentioned it before, but where did you get those cables for your ER4XR? How does it compare to stock?
That is a custom, shortly cable that forum member ClieOS made for me. He does great work!

Sound-wise, no difference I can hear. But I wasn't expecting any difference to be honest, as I have never been able to tell "any" difference when changing cables over the last 10-15 years. Not once.
 
May 19, 2019 at 10:28 AM Post #13,317 of 19,251
So bass is not tight and a little lacking compared to the se4xr?
To me, based on this first impression, after a couple of hours, yes. But I will try them out for a while longer before giving up on them.

I am also going to try the tri-flanges from the ER4 in the ER2 since those are already broken-in and really nice and soft. Perhaps that will help with the lower-end somewhat.
 
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May 19, 2019 at 10:37 AM Post #13,318 of 19,251
First impressions: Don't like them. I based my purchase on the ER2SE on the early reviews on Massdrop and frequency response graph that showed the ER2SE having a strong low-end, so I figured the ER2XR would have been "too much", but based on this few initial hours, to me, the ER2SE lack the tight, lower end bass on the ER4XR.

I haven't done direct comparison yet but in terms of bass, I think I agree with respect to the ER4P/S as well- Although I do think it extends a bit lower (or at least I feel it more), nor that the ER2SE bass is bad, it's just relatively a bit 'wooly' , and that tightness or speed on the ER4 maybe adds more to the sound than I properly appreciated. Also I found the ER2SE upper midrange/treble had a bit of a pinched-off, very dry quality, kind of similar to the ER4S when its under-driven- perhaps I need to experiment with amp or more powerful source.

So far, IMO it does give a pretty close approximation of the ER4S at a lower price, but I think I would personally save up the extra for an ER4P/S. On the other hand the build quality seems quite good*, could definitely see this being good at work or while exercising (though would prefer a captive cable).

*edit, mistakenly wrote it had a captive cable, it does not.
 
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May 19, 2019 at 10:45 AM Post #13,319 of 19,251
That is a custom, shortly cable that forum member ClieOS made for me. He does great work!

Sound-wise, no difference I can hear. But I wasn't expecting any difference to be honest, as I have never been able to tell "any" difference when changing cables over the last 10-15 years. Not once.

Fair enough! Was just curious because the stock cable on my ER3SE aren't very good so I've been looking for more ergonomic alternatives.
 
May 19, 2019 at 6:12 PM Post #13,320 of 19,251
Maybe give them more time and see if the dd driver on er2 variants improve thru burn in.
 

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