If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...
Apr 25, 2024 at 7:00 PM Post #19,246 of 19,279
I would be happy if they made the ER4 smaller, not as long so they can fit under a helmet better.
 
May 4, 2024 at 4:53 PM Post #19,247 of 19,279
After trying the ER4SR again after almost 3 months of using the ER4XR, I still view the ER4SR is much cleaner and the flatter bass is much better as I'm noticing moments where 4XR bass wither stock or EQ'd up starts cloud the mids/treble. I think I might keep the ER4XR as for moments where I want a warmer sound and as a back up IEM's.
 
May 4, 2024 at 7:11 PM Post #19,248 of 19,279
After trying the ER4SR again after almost 3 months of using the ER4XR, I still view the ER4SR is much cleaner and the flatter bass is much better as I'm noticing moments where 4XR bass wither stock or EQ'd up starts cloud the mids/treble. I think I might keep the ER4XR as for moments where I want a warmer sound and as a back up IEM's.
That's my take on the two - The SR's are my main IEM, and the XR I like to use for travel, playing the drums, or just for a little more bass.
 
May 5, 2024 at 1:49 AM Post #19,249 of 19,279
After trying the ER4SR again after almost 3 months of using the ER4XR, I still view the ER4SR is much cleaner and the flatter bass is much better as I'm noticing moments where 4XR bass wither stock or EQ'd up starts cloud the mids/treble. I think I might keep the ER4XR as for moments where I want a warmer sound and as a back up IEM's.
They’re both excellent and timeless IEMs still relevant today. The SR will sound cleaner to most people specially audiophiles since they all hate or don’t care about lower mids. But if you’re hyper focusing on the lower end, it has poor texture when rendering double bass and cellos, and this is where the XR pulls ahead. But of course it’s all about compromises and minmaxing at the end of the day.
 
May 7, 2024 at 2:39 AM Post #19,250 of 19,279
They’re both excellent and timeless IEMs still relevant today. The SR will sound cleaner to most people specially audiophiles since they all hate or don’t care about lower mids. But if you’re hyper focusing on the lower end, it has poor texture when rendering double bass and cellos, and this is where the XR pulls ahead. But of course it’s all about compromises and minmaxing at the end of the day.
ER4XR Is better overall package since you can EQ It into sounding like other bassier IEM's(8 ~ 12db) without issues or mimic 4SR bass with -4db 105Hz low shelf. I got the ER4XR because adding another 4db It sounds like some of the Multi-BA/DD IEM's I tried, On the ER4SR/ER4S that would've been 8db 100Hz low shelf hence I need stronger amp to drive that. 0.8 ~ 1.6% at 104db/1KHz Is still low since that 0.39 ~ 0.85% at 96db/1KHz.

ER4XR Is basically the warm neutral version of the ER4S/ER4SR was Neutral IEM's, Many thought you couldn't do this in a single BA set up.
 
May 7, 2024 at 3:35 AM Post #19,251 of 19,279
ER4XR Is better overall package since you can EQ It into sounding like other bassier IEM's(8 ~ 12db) without issues or mimic 4SR bass with -4db 105Hz low shelf. I got the ER4XR because adding another 4db It sounds like some of the Multi-BA/DD IEM's I tried, On the ER4SR/ER4S that would've been 8db 100Hz low shelf hence I need stronger amp to drive that. 0.8 ~ 1.6% at 104db/1KHz Is still low since that 0.39 ~ 0.85% at 96db/1KHz.

ER4XR Is basically the warm neutral version of the ER4S/ER4SR was Neutral IEM's, Many thought you couldn't do this in a single BA set up.
I have heard other full BA sets and besides the Sony IER-M9, nothing quite slams like the Etymotics.

Moondrop S8 and Audiosense DT-200 for example sounded rather tame and dead compared to even ER3SE when it came to rendering percussion hits.

I guess deep insertion is almost like cheating when it comes to this. And it explains why the Z1R also feels at least 2x of what it graphs like.
 
May 11, 2024 at 5:05 PM Post #19,252 of 19,279
Also trying the ER4SR again after using my new cable on It, Doing 6db 80Hz low shelf on It sounds much cleaner than the ER4XR. The 4XR bass seems too cloudy for my tastes, My EQ'd ER4SR still seems to sound flat but with more sub bass.

Thinking of just keeping the ER4XR's as back ups, Since I use Poweramp on my phone which has PEQ built in allowing the 6db bass shelf for the ER4SR.
 
May 13, 2024 at 12:59 AM Post #19,253 of 19,279
agreed. although i go up to 4db for the original er4s (should match er4sr closely).

here is my ideal eq, aka what i would change...

6.5k +4db q1 5
70hz +6db q0.8

that just gives the bass the correct sub fill and adds the mid treble fix. but I'd even be happy with both of those values halved. :) i also much prefer the narrow ety driver bodies...


or at least sell them in a larger quantity pack at a discount. I'd buy a 10 or 20 pack of green filters...
Nice! I'll give them a try!
 
May 24, 2024 at 2:05 AM Post #19,255 of 19,279
May 24, 2024 at 7:24 AM Post #19,256 of 19,279
It seems like they are out of stock and have been for a long time. I am also looking for those but havn't been able to find them anywhere. I guess they do not produce them anymore. Hopefully someone can correct me because I am looking for replacements.

No, the issue was that they were no longer available form the vendor we used to get them from, so the new clear ones were tooled up.
 
Jun 12, 2024 at 2:38 PM Post #19,257 of 19,279
Hey guys. Im very to happy to show you my new ER4 monster. This is DIY and is maded by someone awesome person in China. Its not very famous and I think this deserves more attention.

The name of the brand is Dove Headphones (鸽子耳机) and this genius guy make the ER4B-S-P in a single chasis!

Im waiting for them to measure some bulk that I oder but they seem pretty damn good. With the classic ED29689 and the RC circuit.

When them arrive I will show the measurements and my review being a ER4SR owner.

Stay tuned...
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Jun 15, 2024 at 8:21 AM Post #19,259 of 19,279
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/etymotic-er4xr-iem-review.54791/

What a joke review after reading the thread and the rating community wise is basically 2.5/5, Calling the ER4XR a outdated mess & implying ER4XR fans are stupid?. What bugs me more Is them acting like their disdain is fact If you don't tolerate It suddenly they can't say anything beyond calling you a troll, Despite them openly spouting misinformation like how 1.6% 104db/1KHz means anything or that It audibly distorts when I've never once noticed anything.

Still remember when they never modded someone being very hostile by showing me a ER4SR being 1% at 20Hz which was more of a FR artifact.
 
Jun 15, 2024 at 9:35 AM Post #19,260 of 19,279
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/etymotic-er4xr-iem-review.54791/

What a joke review after reading the thread and the rating community wise is basically 2.5/5, Calling the ER4XR a outdated mess & implying ER4XR fans are stupid?. What bugs me more Is them acting like their disdain is fact If you don't tolerate It suddenly they can't say anything beyond calling you a troll, Despite them openly spouting misinformation like how 1.6% 104db/1KHz means anything or that It audibly distorts when I've never once noticed anything.

Still remember when they never modded someone being very hostile by showing me a ER4SR being 1% at 20Hz which was more of a FR artifact.
If ASR was on Head-Fi as a user, I would have placed them in “ignore” a long time ago.

I’m not a research expert. I’m only educated to Masters level. But I know a poor quality write-up posing as research when I see one. Introducing bias by graphing before the impressions? Then introducing EQ and a bass shelf filter to a single BA IEM … and complaining of distortion?

If I was reviewing papers, this would have been in the “exclude” table.

I jumped into this thread as the Ety4P was at the very beginning of my BA / IEM journey. Whilst I moved onto (I would argue I prefer the Andromeda 2020 I’m listening to now) … I’m tempted to re-buy a set of Ety’s for nostalgia reasons.
 

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