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If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

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  1. chinmie

    here's another eartips that can be used with etys without adapters (or any other small nozzle for that matter) ; the Sony MH755 tips
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  2. home44
    Where from in UK?
  3. JohnYang1997
    The problem is they both have serious quality control issue. I bought two pairs of e3000 both have 6db imbalance bass. And i bought e4000 in the store and opened three pair just to get two single units to match. And the bass of e4000 is not any less than e3000. It's even more dense and weighty than e3000 which is somewhat soft and pleasing. The treble of e3000 is much more forgiving, slight hump at 6k that's it.
  4. AudioNoob
    Did you contact final audio about your findings? I'm surprised that they have that level of quality control issues as goods meant to be exported to Japan usually go through a higher level qc process
  5. castleofargh Contributor
    my anecdotal experience with a pair of E2000 is sadly similar.
    usual warning!!!!! non standard measurement done on lego rig, no compensation. if it looks like other measurements, that's probably just luck. :metal:

    I instantly liked the general signature(warm, yet kind of fun) but after 20seconds something felt so weirdly shifted in one of my so called test songs, that I stopped listening and went straight to measure the pair to find out what was going on. anywhere else I wouldn't have bothered, but right around 3kHz that's the worst place to have a big frequency imbalance so I sent it back to Amazooone saying specifically why.

    I'm wouldn't dare to draw big conclusion about the production quality based on my massive sampling of 1 pair ^_^. but it's enough to show that crap happens.
    I kind of want another pair, I like the sound, they're small, that's already a lot of good points, but the isolation is not great so I kind of know that it would most likely end up with all the other IEMs I kind of enjoy one week a year because the rest of the time I use Ety IEMs or an old pair of SE215 because their isolation roxxxx.
  6. AudioNoob
    I'll give my pair another listen with a frequency generator. Anyhow let's not litter this post with final audio stuff. I think it would be great to add these to the final audio thread and I can send them a note to follow up there.
    *I tried a couple sweeps but apart from maybe a slight bump below 100hz towards the left(hard to tell in lower frequencies) I've got nothing. On another note, putting complies on the e2000s ramps up the bass/dulls the high mids quite a bit. I'm guessing it's a combination of plugging the front ports and the harder and longer center tube. Also as a final note on the well, final audio, they are looking into the mismatched driver issue to see if a random sampling of their stock will show anything.
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  7. Larethio
    Has anyone had the chance to compare the new ER2 with the hifiman re600?
  8. JohnYang1997
    Er2 has more natural and accurate mid range and more extended and smoother highs. Re600 is relatively similar to er2 er4 than many other iems.
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  9. Larethio
    Okay cool seems ill settle on the er2se for a cleaner Dynamic Driver signature.
  10. AudioNoob
    etys are also about 1000x more durable compared to the re600.

    Are the resistors still in the cable with the newer ER series?
    Last edited: May 28, 2019
  11. ClieOS Contributor
    No resistors anymore.
  12. JohnYang1997
    They are implemented in the driver housing at the back of the driver. Not in the cable anymore.
    quagmire and WhatToChoose like this.
  13. WhatToChoose
    Yep, Etys are terrifically durable, 2.5 years of use with mine and no driver issues, or even MMCX connector issues from snagging the cable on many a doorknob
  14. toranku

    Received the 2XR today. It addresses what I wanted from the 2SE - more bass (especially subbass) as well as more warmth for a more natural presentation. Does also address the dynamics issue with ER2 to a great extent.

    Really enjoy it. 2SE is slightly brighter and less bassy and offers a mid forward experience imo. 2XR has a more downslope FR type of tone which I prefer.
    Makahl and ddmt like this.
  15. wquiles
    Very similar to what I heard when I compared them back to back (and against the 4XR). I am really enjoying the 2XR :)
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