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If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

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  1. FastAndClean
    i replaced the cable with 2.5mm balanced wire with some silver in it, it plays better with my dac because of the added headroom, also the stock cable is stiff and heavy, not the best in the first place
  2. JohnYang1997
    I don't think that's a good idea. Stick with the stock cable as long as you can.
  3. manthisis
    Why do you say so? There's a number of people on this thread who have done the same with no problems. @ClieOS uses it as well and recommends it.
  4. JohnYang1997
    Just pull it out then. Removing cable is mostly safe. Plugin new cable needs some precision, the force has to be perpendicular.
  5. ClieOS Contributor
    Do it slow and you will eventually get them out without a problem. I reckon I have probably plugged and unplugged mine for at least hundred of times. The first time is usually the tightest but ultimately it might become slightly loose over the time, but there are ways to mitigate that as well.
  6. astro
    Those adapters aren't any more durable than the cables you're replacing in my experience.
    That's my experience with the adapter made by the seller awwan.

    I bought them hoping I could use the much cheaper MMCX cables which would be less costly to replace when they get worn out but I found the adapters failing more quickly than the cables failed on me.
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2019
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  7. manthisis
    Considering how much you've used the adapters, how long does each last you before you need to order another one?
  8. ClieOS Contributor
    I don't use adapter. I have built dedicated 4P, 4S and 4B cables myself - all are still working fine though I stick to 4S most of the time. The 4S cable I am using now is over 3 yrs old now and I have a good track record for keeping my gears in really good shape - thus I reckon I can probably easily use it for another 3~5 yrs without a problem.
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  9. betula
    I would highly recommend to any ER3XR owner to use a 20ohm resistor. It is an inexpensive yet significant upgrade in sound quality. Like a hazy veil was lifted. There is so much more clarity and insight! I guess the better source you use the more difference you hear. With Mojo it is quite significant. I happily take the slightly uncomfortable resistor for this upgraded sound.
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  10. manthisis
    Has anybody had an experience where, when I flex my ears a bit (which seemingly causes the canals to open up a bit more and my eyebrows to raise) that the sound gets a little louder, and maybe even a bit clearer? And then when I stop flexing my ears and get back to normal, it goes back to what is was before. I've neutralized the pressure in both my ears after inserting deep and getting a good seal and this is still happening. Is there any reason for this, and should I worry about it? Or does it just increase the volume and not the clarity itself? Want to make sure I'm not messing up the sound.
  11. csglinux
    It's possible that the eartip is folding over slightly against the bend in your ear canal(s) and slightly occluding the opening. This could happen with any type of eartip, but it's more likely with foam, which is why you're supposed to "prepare" your foam tips by flattening the ends before rolling. If you're using silicone tips, the effect would just be more subtle.
  12. manthisis
    Yeah, I'm using silicone. Is there anything I can do or should I just not worry about it?
  13. csglinux
    IMHO, life is a never-ending quest for eartips that fit us just a tiny little bit better than the last pair... :wink:
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  14. WhatToChoose
    I think I know what you are talking about....sort of like yawning, but also flexing your ears and raising your eyebrows?

    I do this do normalize the pressure, I think that yawning opens eustachian tubes, which normalizes pressure in the ear (not sure which part tbh), and the phenomenon you experience as volume increase may be changed in resonant geometry of ear canal?? OR outside noise coming in due to airways opening up....yeah our bodies are weird

    I use triple flanges as well, and I find that doing the yawn/ear stretch helps normalize the position of them (too deep results in stuffy fatiguing sound), and also normalized ear pressure, and makes them sound wicked good
  15. manthisis
    Yeah! Thanks for the info guys. What I've found is that the problem goes away if I insert the IEM's at more of a horizontal/slightly-downward angle into my ears. Now the sound is the same regardless of whether I'm "flexing" my ears, or whatever I'm doing :wink:.
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