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Hugo M Scaler by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread

Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by ChordElectronics, Jul 25, 2018.
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  1. tunes
    I would think amp on first and amp off last since the more powerful amp and large capacitors could inject a voltage or current spike on turn on or turn off??? Please correct me if this logic false.
  2. Christer
    Thanks for input. I'll look at that option.
    Cheers Controversial Christer
  3. Christer

    Very funny.
    I suppose this post is written with the intention of poking some fun at some of the questions discussed here currently.

    FYI my personal reasons for wanting to use a DAP or similar gadget with my M Scaler is because I don't want to always have to start up ,my main workhorse, my big mbp just because I want to listen to music.
    Besides there is a factual error involved in this week's episode at Harrods.

    FYI there is NO such "machine" which can turn redbook into hi res.

    Not even M Scaler can do that if that is the "machine" you actually have in mind?

    M Scaler can certainly make rbcd much more listenable than possibly any other upscaling or upsampling CD player yes .But it can NOT turn rbcd into something it isn't.
    Cheers Controversial Christer
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
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  4. jarnopp
    Did anyone mention Shanling M0 yet? Very affordable, micro SD card storage up to 512gb, and digital out (supposedly) for $100. Never heard one, though.
  5. Christer
    your experiences sound interesting too and the iBassoDX200 sonds like a unit I will have to take a closer look at and try out among several others.
    As far as DSD 512 is concerned, no I have nothing above DSD 256 and with both Qutest and M Scaler any DSD is converted into PCM anyway.
    But if some of the classical labels like Reference Recordings for example who are currently recording in either DSD 256 or DXD with the Horus ADC would start recordng at DSD 512 it would be interesting to be able to play DSD 512 if that is how things were actually recorded.
    Some of the problems with the lowly DSD 64 can become really problematic when DSD 64 has to go through editing and mastering.
    DSD 64 raw files can actually sound very transparent and good and most of the DSD 256 /DXD recordings from Reference Recordings are very good recordings by any standard.
    As I understand it what higher rate DSD like DSD 256 or DSD 512 can possibly achieve is a bit similar to what Rob Watts does ie it pushes the dreaded DSD noise out and away from aliasing into where we can hear it.
    Cheers Controversial Christer PS where is the thread on DSD 512?
  6. Christer
    Thanks , another contender, and at a very reasonable price too.
    Could be exactly what I am looking for.
    Cheers Controversial Christer
  7. onlychild
    I just got a Hiby R3 for $200 from amazon and used it as a USB transport out to my Dave/Mscaler.

    Sounded a lot better than my MacBook Pro usb out.

    Less noise, less harshness, much more organic sounding, deeper and wider stage, etc
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  8. AndrewH13
    Bought my wife one for holidays. Shanling M0 is about an inch square :)
  9. AndrewH13
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  10. x RELIC x Contributor
    Amp on last, amp off first is the way to go. For example, the DAVE manual specifically cautions against the Current surge creating a loud pop which can damage the amp when turning on the DAVE if connected to an amp that is powered on. This is best practise for audio gear... Start with the source on first and power the final part of the chain last, reverse the order for shutdown.
  11. Deano1974
    Relic is correct, LOFO easy to remember

    Amplifier is Last On First Off

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  12. naynay

    Is there any one on here using the Antipodes EX streamer running through there M Scaler and can confirm that when the audio is stopped that the auto low power made on M Scaler activates?

  13. Torq
    Playing with the M-Scaler using it's optical-output, mostly out of morbid curiosity, I find that the Output Sample rate options do not follow those of the COAX and (single) BNC connections, nor the indications in the manual (or at least the latest version on the Chord site).

    In "Passthrough" mode, the optical output correctly operates at the same bit-rate/depth as the source is feeding the M-Scaler. However, the "Green" setting, which the manual says should result in an optical output rate of 88.2 kHz or 96 kHz (depending on the source rate) jumps immediately to 176.4 kHz or 192 kHz.

    In other words, it does not seem to be possible to get an output rate of anything other than 176.4 kHz or 192 kHz via optical from the M-Scaler unless it is in passthrough mode. This doesn't cause me any issues, I'm just curious if that's the intended behavior (and the manual is in error), or if there is some other factor affecting the output rate behavior on the optical link. BNC output steps up in the sequence listed in the manual.
  14. Christer
    I like both to hear and read Good News.
    I don't closely follow mainstream media channels with their typical agenda of reporting almost only bad news, including all possible terrible accidents,conflicts and close up views from warzones they can dig up and feed people with on a daily basis for that very reason.

    But this sounds like good news indeed.

    When I will be back in KL and Singapore next month I will try out several of these interesting little DAPs suggested by you and others in past few days.
    Thanks a lot for everybody's input.
    A 200 USD unit that sounds better via M Scaler than my Macbook Pro is exactly what I am loooking for!
    Cheers Controversial Christer
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2019
  15. ZappaMan
    Are you sure you’re source is not responsible for the upscaling prior to signal reaching mscaler? Such as turning on windows up sampling.
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