Hi giogio!
I was checking out the AKG Y45BT as I thought they were very portable, stylish and yet not ostentatious.
However, several reviews that i have read about it says there is an audible hiss.
Can you kindly compare the hiss on this pair of headphones vs the rest (Momentum over ear wireless & Philips M2BT)?
Thank you!
There is a Hiss in almost all BT Headphones.
Apart extreme cases like the Beats Studio Wireless, the his is only audible in the few seconds from when you pause music and when the Amp turns off, which can be almost immediate on some headphones.
You could also hear the hiss during very silent podcasts/audiobooks, with lot of talking and silences. But generally you would get used immediately.
Of those three, the M2AEBT are the ones with less hiss.
Than the Fidelio.
Than the AKG are the ones with more hiss.
Still, I did not notice the hiss on them till you asked me to verify.
To add I've just taken my iPhone 4s out of my drawer and wow
which phone you using to deliver the audio Giogio? Using Moto X 2014 + v4a and now iPhone 4s
tested s6 and m9 for delivery too. S6 was good and was a little let down with the m9 (Bluetooth kept breaking up to much!) This is another of my missions
output delivery
What do you call s6 and m9?
Did you receive the ATH?
Hello!
My first post on head-fi.org! I have lately been on the prowl for a new pair of headphones; having crossed this thread a couple of times I figured I might step out from the shadows of internet traffic to get some good and experienced personal advice! :- )
Aesthetics (highly subjective) and audio quality (difficult to explain?) aside I have come up with a few hard criteria:
1. Over-ear (and closed back...)
2. If ANC-featured, then it must be possible to switch it off
3. Possibility to plug it in using a standard audio cable (like 3.5mm)
Many or most of the top-recommended bluetooth headphones seem to fail these criteria : /, but on the other hand this limits my options.
I sure like strong bass and warmth, but there has to be a balance of course
I will mention that I have fairly small ears, so not too specific on the fitting, and I am generally not bothered with heat/sweat, but I tend to use headphones for very long sessions and value overall comfort in that regard.
When it comes to budgeting, I am not wealthy by any means, but if I was entirely convinced that the choice is right I could probably eke out upwards of 400$, but hopefully less.
Thanks! /Måns
Hi,
what makes you say that "most of the top-recommended bluetooth headphones seem to fail these criteria"?
All over Ear in my list are closed back, although some have little openings (supposedly for bass).
The only one where you cannot turn ANC off is the M2AEBT (and the Beats, which is far from being on top in my list).
And in this moment most are Over Ear.
And all of them can be used with cable
If you have little ears and you want strong bass with balanced sound, Over Ear, warm and smaller than the Plantronics (which btw are not warm), from what I have tried I can only suggest the ATH-WS99BT.
It is not the best isolating one, and it may leak a little bit more sound than other ones (but not so much either), and you may wish to replace the earpads (I will be able to suggest the best ones in a couple of weeks) if you have protruding and sensitive ears.
But it is the only one able to get really loud and produce (when EQed) a very strong bass without affecting other frequencies much, and being balanced. The fact that out of the box they are not bass boosted is wonderful for many things, although people who do not want to use EQ have to lok elsewhere (or use them with the Brainwavz Pads, which increase the bass dramatically).
The Fidelio are also moderately warm and with a good bass out of the box (still not so boosted as the Plantronics) but are On Ear.
Or you could try the Supertooth Freedom. I think you may like them, yes. And they are quite cheap.
Or, some people talk well of the bass of the new Denon and the new Sony.
It also depends on what you call "strong bass"
Hey Giogio, I have another question to add onto your list (haha). I just want to know, out of the UE9000, WS99BT, and Fidelio M2BT, which one sounds the crispiest with lovely bass outside of the box? Without EQ. For music ranging from Alternative Rock, to Indie, to Reggae, to Underground Hip Hop, to Trap, and to DubStep.?
I usually just listen to music on youtube/soundcloud/spotify and can't find any apps on mu iphone to EQ live streaming music. Your answer is greatly appreciated!
The ATH, IF with the Brainwavz pads (but you would not want to go around with those huge pads). With the original pads they need EQ for a strong bass.
Otherwise, the Fidelio.
The UE are also good but I remember them having a slightly less bass out of the box, and they are not so crispy as the Fidelio (although the Fidelio may be a bit sibilant in some highs on some songs), and are very heavy. I could not use them for long time.
I would say, if you want to go around with them, take the Fidelio.
If it is for home and you like to listen things at loud volume, the ATH can do better than the Fidelio on Loudness.
"Giogio",i meant first generation over ear non bluetooth version .I am just curious whether i could do much better or whether the improvement will be merely incremental .
In-terms or clarity ,separation ,detail, sound-stage basically all the element that makes one go wow .If the difference is only minute i wont upgrade .Anyone here has listened to wired vmoda m80? sennheiser momentum over ear first gen? ath 50x? etc basically any community favorite wired headphones? ,or any Bluetooth headphones that provides substantial upgrade ,like night or day etc.
Anyway ,thanks a lot for the reply .
I have listened the original Momentum wired briefly in a shop.
Well, you just cannot compare them with the Sony XB950BT.
Just, not.
The Sony are just made for people who want a lot of boom boom bass.
With the Bass Boost active you have this lot of boomy, uncontrolled bass with poor body. And some recessed highs, with some kind of warmth in the mids.
Without the Bass Boost they are the same, but with less bass.
I do not like them.
I could not suggest them.
But you may like them, people have different tastes.
But they cannot be compared to the Momentum. Totally different sound.
If you mean for the warm mids and recessed highs and somehow boomy bass, yeah, reading this it may seem that there is a similarity. But, totally different.
The soundstage is also non existent on the Sony.
I would rather take the 1ABT eventually.
I'm curious about something..
From the headphones you own, how do you think the Backbeat Pro hold up against the MM450, Level Over, 1RBT, and the Momentum? I ordered the Backbeat Pro, should be getting them in a week or so. My first BT headphones ever so I have no experience (I own a wired Beyerdynamic DT880).
MM400: cold, almost clinical. Clean. No rumble. Nice but not powerful punch. No soundstage.
Level Over: warm, intimate soft sound, nice soundstage, not much bass (but more rumbling than MM)
1RBT: why?
Momentum: warm, nice rumble but a bit boomy, wonderful soundstage, soft smooth refined sound.
BBP: the most powerful bass of those you have named. Bright highs (imo far from piercing. I perceive them as somehow smooth, not harsh). Nice mids, which may appear less evident respect to highs and bass, also due to the good soundstage.
I would take the BBP for bassy music and the Momentum for vocal music, although the BBP may sound also very good with vocals.
Stop worrying, you have ordered them, wait, try them, and ONLY if you do not like them start thinking to an alternative.
Who is afraid of suffering, is already suffering the fear.
got them today and with viper4 settings on destroy my m2 wireless out of the water for clarity! Should be back soon with the Sony's and ws99bts 
I just that... Detail! The Sennheiser's do roll off on the highs and they get lost! I know you like a detailed and held bass which is better on the sennys but the Bose's isn't to bad just not as good 
