HiFiMan Susvara
Oct 14, 2021 at 11:01 PM Post #11,791 of 25,890
That's quite interesting. Perhaps it depends on what type of music you listen to. I listen to 16th through late 19th century orchestral, chamber and choral/opera music, which the Susvara is inherently well suited for. I can't see what the deficiencies are on the part of the RAG 2 that would impact this music. It seems to me, assuming adequate juice, the magic is in the Susvara themselves. I have no problem considering other equipment if it makes a significant audible difference, but for now I'm content. I will continue to monitor this forum to see what others are doing. But I really believe the style of music is a big factor in all this, for instance, heavy bass and slam aren't important to me though there is plenty coming out of the Rag/ Susvara combo when the music I listen to calls for it. I could be wrong and I'm here to learn!
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 12:30 AM Post #11,792 of 25,890
That's quite interesting. Perhaps it depends on what type of music you listen to. I listen to 16th through late 19th century orchestral, chamber and choral/opera music, which the Susvara is inherently well suited for. I can't see what the deficiencies are on the part of the RAG 2 that would impact this music. It seems to me, assuming adequate juice, the magic is in the Susvara themselves. I have no problem considering other equipment if it makes a significant audible difference, but for now I'm content. I will continue to monitor this forum to see what others are doing. But I really believe the style of music is a big factor in all this, for instance, heavy bass and slam aren't important to me though there is plenty coming out of the Rag/ Susvara combo when the music I listen to calls for it. I could be wrong and I'm here to learn!

There's nothing at all wrong with being content or happy. In fact, in this hobby it's a joy. Nothing to be wrong about here either, and agree the Susvaras are the magic with any capable amp. Cheers!
 
Last edited:
Oct 15, 2021 at 12:30 AM Post #11,793 of 25,890
I am using Burson Conductor 3XR which is similar to Soloist in amplification stage. It drives Susvara nicely with sufficient power and dynamics, much better than my Benchmark HPA4.

If you want to further explore Susvara's potential, I suggest you looking for Kinki Studio THR-1. It is an amazing amplifier with the smoothest and the most analogue sounding one, and the power is sufficient to drive anything on the Earth.
Can you tell me more about the different experience of the Susvara with the Kinki Studio THR-1 vs Ferrum Oor vs Burson Soloist 3XP? The THR-1 is well priced if it can indeed deliver the goods with the Susvara. The Ferrum Oor also seems to be an excellent amp but the Kinki seems well priced in comparison.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 12:41 AM Post #11,794 of 25,890
That's quite interesting. Perhaps it depends on what type of music you listen to. I listen to 16th through late 19th century orchestral, chamber and choral/opera music, which the Susvara is inherently well suited for. I can't see what the deficiencies are on the part of the RAG 2 that would impact this music. It seems to me, assuming adequate juice, the magic is in the Susvara themselves. I have no problem considering other equipment if it makes a significant audible difference, but for now I'm content. I will continue to monitor this forum to see what others are doing. But I really believe the style of music is a big factor in all this, for instance, heavy bass and slam aren't important to me though there is plenty coming out of the Rag/ Susvara combo when the music I listen to calls for it. I could be wrong and I'm here to learn!
Nicely put! As @number1sixerfan fan said, as long as you get joy, that’s all that matters.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 2:06 AM Post #11,795 of 25,890
@Sajid Amit where would you rate the AHB2? Did you like it? decent enough? Mid Tier?
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 3:46 AM Post #11,796 of 25,890
@Sajid Amit where would you rate the AHB2? Did you like it? decent enough? Mid Tier?
Def above midtier.

It might not cost as much as Pass or Accuphase speaker amp setup but it delivers, IMO. It drives the Susvara adequately, and if you have it, unless you are looking for different flavors, you should be all set.

Love how clean it is, devoid of coloration, but in the best sense.
 
Oct 15, 2021 at 5:38 AM Post #11,797 of 25,890
As far as I understood IDSD is offering the same amp modes like solid state and tube but only offering less amplification which won't matter as a preamp.
As a DAC is needed anyway this setup would reduce the length of the overall chain to 2 plus headphone instead of 3.

Pro iDSD also works as a preamp with three different hardware settings (SS, Tube and Tube+) just as Pro iCAN. The former doesn't feature a typical headphone amplifier circuit, however. It relies on its analog stage that's powerful enough to handle many cans, but loads such as Susvara would be happier with Pro iCAN still.
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/people/IFi-audio/61558986775162/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@iFiaudiochannel comms@ifi-audio.com
Oct 15, 2021 at 5:56 AM Post #11,798 of 25,890
Pro iDSD also works as a preamp with three different hardware settings (SS, Tube and Tube+) just as Pro iCAN. The former doesn't feature a typical headphone amplifier circuit, however. It relies on its analog stage that's powerful enough to handle many cans, but loads such as Susvara would be happier with Pro iCAN still.
Thx, that was basically clear to me.
The Xbass circuit is though strategically part only of Micro IDSD line or Ican right?
I guess many people are using IDSD Pro not in conjunction with Pro Ican but with other amps and could profit from such circuits applied upon the preamp stage.
 
Last edited:
Oct 15, 2021 at 6:00 AM Post #11,799 of 25,890
As I and others have said before, you can tell someone how you hear something, but you can't tell them how they will hear it.
And genre differences are a factor.
 
Last edited:
Oct 15, 2021 at 6:45 AM Post #11,800 of 25,890
The Xbass circuit is though strategically part only of Micro IDSD line or Ican right?

That's correct, Pro iDSD doesn't have these functions embedded.

I guess many people are using IDSD Pro not in conjunction with Pro Ican but with other amps and could profit from such circuits applied upon the preamp stage.

They are, but three different modes are the kay feature of our entire Pro range that makes the biggest difference.
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/people/IFi-audio/61558986775162/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@iFiaudiochannel comms@ifi-audio.com
Oct 16, 2021 at 1:15 AM Post #11,801 of 25,890
New member of the Susvara fam as of tonight!

Have it on my ears now running through our Pro iDSD and Pro iCAN and am pretty much at a loss of words.
 
Oct 16, 2021 at 1:20 AM Post #11,802 of 25,890
New member of the Susvara fam as of tonight!

Have it on my ears now running through our Pro iDSD and Pro iCAN and am pretty much at a loss of words.
hope you continue to love it dude. Enjoy! : )
 
Oct 17, 2021 at 2:01 PM Post #11,803 of 25,890
As Susvara is also a "close" follower of Harman target, I think it would be interesting for you guys, too. Harman target from the man himself...

 
Last edited:
Oct 17, 2021 at 2:28 PM Post #11,804 of 25,890
New member of the Susvara fam as of tonight!

Have it on my ears now running through our Pro iDSD and Pro iCAN and am pretty much at a loss of words.

Yes, it's quite something. Now you know what I was on about for some time :D
:beerchug:
 
iFi audio Stay updated on iFi audio at their sponsor profile on Head-Fi.
 
https://www.facebook.com/people/IFi-audio/61558986775162/ https://twitter.com/ifiaudio https://www.instagram.com/ifiaudio/ https://ifi-audio.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@iFiaudiochannel comms@ifi-audio.com
Oct 18, 2021 at 3:16 PM Post #11,805 of 25,890
Took some macro shots of my sus :)
DB90ECA7-517F-4154-A3FF-3FFBF05970DE.jpeg

AAD94EF6-0FB2-4225-B4D9-FCD36B7321F2.jpeg
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top