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There's quite a price difference between the EX600 and EX1000 too - would you say it's justified?
For the record, the only thing that RE-600 and RE-400 share is the housing. The driver diaphragm, coil and cable are different.
HiFiMAN has had RE-600 and RE-400 at shows and everyone has been able to hear the difference between the two. Whether it is worth $300 is subjective. Some will conclude it is well worth it while others will conclude the RE-400 is a better value. That is the way it is with virtually all products and step-up models.
HiFiMAN has customers for both models and we plan to add a third before the end of the year.
Peter
EX1000 does improve on EX600, but not enough to warrant the price difference. RE600, not sure yet but honestly doesn't seem like its an improvement, more like a sidestep.Ill rather leave benefit of the doubt for now
If so, that very much qualifies as different drivers and not tuning the same driver. People need to look at the vifa or seas etc an realize that the same frame can be used on very different purpose devices. How different yours are, we don't know but some of the assumptions made on headfi are worse than the manufacturer claims they are trying to disprove.
It's the same core driver with different tuned coil, diaphragm too apparently. It's exactly what I've been saying. There's nothing wrong with that (sony does the same with EX600/800/1000) but users should take note if its worth the premium based on the outcome of its tone
EX1000 does improve on EX600, but not enough to warrant the price difference. RE600, not sure yet but honestly doesn't seem like its an improvement, more like a sidestep.Ill rather leave benefit of the doubt for now
I would prefer the RE-400 remain where it is, an RE-800 released at the RE-600's price point, and the RE-600 relegated to a $250-300 price.
Hopefully the RE-800 sounding smoother than the RE-600 while at least as resolving.
For the record, the only thing that RE-600 and RE-400 share is the housing. The driver diaphragm, coil and cable are different.
HiFiMAN has had RE-600 and RE-400 at shows and everyone has been able to hear the difference between the two. Whether it is worth $300 is subjective. Some will conclude it is well worth it while others will conclude the RE-400 is a better value. That is the way it is with virtually all products and step-up models.
HiFiMAN has customers for both models and we plan to add a third before the end of the year.
Peter
Good call about another model! Now to see if it's an RE-800 or RE-500.![]()
How does no one care about this official statement???
"We plan to add a third before the end of the year" often means end of next year is why.![]()
Can you show us a graph of that optimism please? Does it have spikes? Is it balanced by deep and tight sub-cynicism? X-rays of your wallet to prove the width of your fanaticism for head-fi will also help us dispel any notion that your claims are pure marketing.
I loved the 4S, don't get me wrong. Still do. Yes, it's quite open sounding despite not sounding as "fleshed out." I just get a better sense of intimacy and coziness with the 400...like petting my cats lol. I don't know about the 4S having better bass control, especially in the lowest notes where the 4S has very little dynamic range (I tested this with 30Hz sine, and it clips out before even getting loud).
would say about 40 Hz and up - the ER4S reproduces perfectly with flawless definition and accuracy that RE-400 and most other dynamics just can't touch IMO.