[TonyNewman]

  ... This does not need  a speaker amp to drive it.

 
Neither does the HE6. There are some headphone amps out there that drive the HE6 very well. Not a huge number, but they exist.
 
WA5 via the K1K port and the Ray Samuels Dark Star are two that I know of. If only the reviewers would use one of them when evaluating the HE6, instead of inadequately juiced amps - like the Apex Pinnacle *cough* Tyll *cough*.

 

[Frank I]

This is more efficient than an HE6. It is 90DB and much easier load to drive.

 

[Dopaminer]

  This is more efficient than an HE6. It is 90DB and much easier load to drive.

You mean like the 560 was supposed to be?

 

[Soundsgoodtome]

Sarcasm or true question?

You mean like the 560 was supposed to be?

 

[wuwhere]

  This is more efficient than an HE6. It is 90DB and much easier load to drive.

 
But isn't this just a prototype? The final product could be less efficient?

 

[XVampireX]

  they  working on more improvements to both the headphone and amp. i was told that in NY when I went there with Fang and spent a day there with him.

 
No, I meant, how do we know that they really are going to implement these said "improvements" if all of the testing (and previewing/reviewing) are done before they are implementing them?

 

[Frank I]

   
No, I meant, how do we know that they really are going to implement these said "improvements" if all of the testing (and previewing/reviewing) are done before they are implementing them?

 Even if they did nothing to improve this it is ready fro prime time in my opinion as is. It is one helluva headphone.

 

[Frank I]

   
But isn't this just a prototype? The final product could be less efficient?

From what Fang is saying the efficiency may even be better. 

 

[Dopaminer]

Sarcasm or true question?

Neither.  It`s a rhetorical question; I was giving my opinion that the 560 is suprisingly hard to drive despite its sensitivity.  Not as hard as the HE-6, but harder than one would expect, given its 90db rating.  
 
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[Frank I]

I will run this headphone  through a lot of different amplifiers while it is here and let everyone know what I  use in the review. I amalso goingn to try the Hugo tomorrow. 

 

[conquerator2]

Well, now only question that remains is the price

 

[Frank I]

You need to ask our good friend Fang.He is not saying yet.

 

[Yoga]

  I will run this headphone  through a lot of different amplifiers while it is here and let everyone know what I  use in the review. I amalso goingn to try the Hugo tomorrow. 

Looking forward to your findings. Subbed! 

 

[XVampireX]

   Even if they did nothing to improve this it is ready fro prime time in my opinion as is. It is one helluva headphone.

 
Not enough "omg wow" type reviews, all of the reviews that I've seen are mostly "So the soundstage is not as wide as HD800, but more realistic" and "bass is hitting hard, any more than that it will be too much"
 
I can see some photos people make a happy face, but the question is if at the end of the day, if these headphones can play with the really big boys! (Stax as an example)

 

[preproman]

   
Neither does the HE6. There are some headphone amps out there that drive the HE6 very well. Not a huge number, but they exist.
 
WA5 via the K1K port and the Ray Samuels Dark Star are two that I know of. If only the reviewers would use one of them when evaluating the HE6, instead of inadequately juiced amps - like the Apex Pinnacle *cough* Tyll *cough*.

 
Have you heard the Dark Star with the HE-6 before?  If not I suggest you do.  If you can't, the next best thing to do is read the entire Dark Star tread..  I've heard two different ones...