[ambrose1985]

hi all! just joined this lovey family of HEK am at the 36th hour of burning in. using it with my ygg/rag.

is it supposed to hit THAT hard ? im getting abit uncomfortable with the hardness of the sound. i had demo-ed this at least 3-4 times with different sets and didnt really register that effect.

is this suppose to go away with burn in ?

 

[TWerk]

  Wow just got my HE-1000 and it outranks every other headphone I currently own (LCD-3, LCD-X, HD800, Final Audio Design Pandora Hope VI, DT 990)

 
I just got a pair and plugged into my MACBOOK, and I could not believe my ears. Yes, no amp, just into the macbook. They are rather efficent, I must say.
 
I agree that wow is the word here. I couldn't even get myself to take a break to eat something as I was getting dizzy from the hunger.
 
These are simply remarkable.

 

[goldendarko]

The HE1000 are actually pretty hard to drive, I've gotta go significantly higher on the volume knob of my Studio Six than I do with my LCD-3's. I highly doubt a MacBook is able to power them to an enjoyable level. 

 

[doctorjazz]

I can drive them acceptably from a balanced Pono, but they sound better out of the MicroZOTL2 and Liquid Carbon.

 

[TWerk]

  The HE1000 are actually pretty hard to drive, I've gotta go significantly higher on the volume knob of my Studio Six than I do with my LCD-3's. I highly doubt a MacBook is able to power them to an enjoyable level. 

 
Idk maybe I'm getting 65% of the potential out of them, but still the sound is still incredible and bests what I've yet heard.
 
I do have the volume bar most of the way up (70+).

 

[JaZZ]

hi all! just joined this lovey family of HEK

am at the 36th hour of burning in. using it with my ygg/rag.

is it supposed to hit THAT hard ? im getting abit uncomfortable with the hardness of the sound. i had demo-ed this at least 3-4 times with different sets and didnt really register that effect.

is this supposed to go away with burn in ?

 
Mine sounded a bit hard or rough at the beginning and became smoother and smoother up till the ~250-hour mark. Part of the roughness is attributed to the cable, though. In my case a Silver Dragon improved resolution and smoothness to a significant degree.

 

[Gowry]

Mine are definitely a lot smoother than when they started out. They are sounding much much better now. I was a little worried out of the box. I still have a lot more burn in to go. The HEK manual says 150 hours. 

hi all! just joined this lovey family of HEK

am at the 36th hour of burning in. using it with my ygg/rag.

is it supposed to hit THAT hard ? im getting abit uncomfortable with the hardness of the sound. i had demo-ed this at least 3-4 times with different sets and didnt really register that effect.

is this suppose to go away with burn in ?

 

[Sonic Guild]

  Mine are definitely a lot smoother than when they started out. They are sounding much much better now. I was a little worried out of the box. I still have a lot more burn in to go. The HEK manual says 150 hours. 

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[ambrose1985]

 
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please dont scare me !

 

[Sonic Guild]

   
 
please dont scare me !

Oh no don't be scared.
 
I am just telling him about the burn placebo effect. He feels that there is a difference!
All what is happening that his brain and ears are adjusting over the time to the new sound signature. 
 
Do you think that manufacturers don't burn the drivers before selling them to customers? NO WAY, with magnetic drivers that tend to fail a lot compared to the dynamic ones. Magnetic drivers manufacturers recently started a quality procedure by burning the drivers for 50hrs before selling them the to the customers. 
 
It is just like the cars' engines myth, people used to think that they have to train their new engines for 10000km! It took them 50 years to learn that this is just placebo

 

 

[ambrose1985]

 
Oh no don't be scared.
 
I am just telling him about the burn placebo effect. He feels that there is a difference!
All what is happening that his brain and ears are adjusting over the time to the new sound signature. 
 
Do you think that manufacturers don't burn the drivers before selling them to customers? NO WAY, with magnetic drivers that tend to fail a lot compared to the dynamic ones. Magnetic drivers manufacturers recently started a quality procedure by burning the drivers for 50hrs before selling them the to the customers. 
 
It is just like the cars' engines myth, people used to think that they have to train their new engines for 10000km! It took them 50 years to learn that this is just placebo

 

 
which also means that i may need to return if i dont get used to the sound, no ?  

 

[JaZZ]

 

  please dont scare me !

Oh no don't be scared.
 
I am just telling him about the burn placebo effect. He feels that there is a difference!
All what is happening that his brain and ears are adjusting over the time to the new sound signature. 
 
Do you think that manufacturers don't burn the drivers before selling them to customers? NO WAY, with magnetic drivers that tend to fail a lot compared to the dynamic ones. Magnetic drivers manufacturers recently started a quality procedure by burning the drivers for 50hrs before selling them the to the customers. 
 
It is just like the cars' engines myth, people used to think that they have to train their new engines for 10000km! It took them 50 years to learn that this is just placebo

 

 
You make it sound like a fact, but in fact it's just an assumption from your part.
 
The manufacturer himself confirms a break-in effect. The headphones may pass some test runs, but certainly nowhere near the recommended 150 hours or the ~250 hours of perceived improvement from my own pair. Note that I have other heaphones as well to which I listened during that time, so the chance of falling for a placebo effect / brain burn-in by adapting to a certain sound is minimized.
 
From a technical point of view, nothing speaks against break-in effects with headphone and speaker membranes. Look at the Inner Fidelity measurements for a fresh and a broken-in Stax SR-009 (especially harmonic distortion!)! Or this break-in test with speakers posted a few years ago.

 

[adamaley]

 
Oh no don't be scared.
 
I am just telling him about the burn placebo effect. He feels that there is a difference!
All what is happening that his brain and ears are adjusting over the time to the new sound signature. 
 
Do you think that manufacturers don't burn the drivers before selling them to customers? NO WAY, with magnetic drivers that tend to fail a lot compared to the dynamic ones. Magnetic drivers manufacturers recently started a quality procedure by burning the drivers for 50hrs before selling them the to the customers. 
 
It is just like the cars' engines myth, people used to think that they have to train their new engines for 10000km! It took them 50 years to learn that this is just placebo

 

Dude, this topic has been beaten to death. We get it - you don't believe in burn in. You've probably argued it a thousand times over the interwebz. However, you know that there are people who do believe in the phenomenon, and that you have never been able to convince them otherwise. You probably still go around the interwebz trying to preach your doctrine, and as a result, derail threads and ultimately everyone's enjoyment of their hobby. Please stop trolling on here and move along.

 

[pavement714]

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  Hard hitting is one thing all the 
Dude, this topic has been beaten to death. We get it - you don't believe in burn in. You've probably argued it a thousand times over the interwebz. However, you know that there are people who do believe in the phenomenon, and that you have never been able to convince them otherwise. You probably still go around the interwebz trying to preach your doctrine, and as a result, derail threads and ultimately everyone's enjoyment of their hobby. Please stop trolling on here and move along.

Doesn't believe in burn in/Buys $300 USB cable (based on signature) 

 

[JaZZ]

Please let's be fair and tolerant! Everyone is entitled to their opinion – with a corresponding response if a statement is over the top.