[testrichard]

well, i used to work in the bank and i seriously suggest young employed people consider income protection insurance....for 20~40 a month in current environment could really do you good.... Australia income protection insurance used to be really good !! but i m not so sure if it is still the same...... i think the waiting period is longer now before it really kick in after you unemployed~ and also the eligibility is also harder now i think? but any way, all young people should consider invest in it unless you have stable backup income source or mid to long term financial asset such as business or fully paid off property etc etc..
 
if you r in medical field~ you should really consider moving to Australia!! as our country really need more people like you lol we have way too many general practitioner but out of whack number of specialist

 
sorry for the out of topic ~~ whats important is i m heading to post office now to pick up my 602 ~~ new 801 Amp card and hopefully RE262 as well

   god i dont think i remember what original 801 amp card sound like any more

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Life definitely gets in the way.  When I became disabled with my lung disease in Aug 1998 I worked half-time after that, but I didn't get my first private disability check until May 1999.  By then I'd gone bankrupt and closed my medical practice (I should have been incorporated so only the office would go bankrupt, but the work debts, leases and mortgages were my debts and it took me down).  
 
Fortunately my wife is healthy and has 12 weeks of paid time off saved up right now, and if she was disabled her short term disability kicks in after 60 days, so there could be an overlap.  Plus if she wanted to, or if she was fired or disabled, she can retire after December on a pension of 75% her previous salary (If she works two more years that will go to 80%). That's good to know with both a 10th and 11th grader going to college soon, and a 7th grader not too far behind. 

 

[Anaxilus]

Best wishes HPA.  Things will look up!

 

[testrichard]

Got my 602 ~ initial impression ?
 
wow, nice ~ compare to my 801 2nd batch release, the painting job of 602 is way much better, it gives you that glossy look actually ! makes it mouth watering.
 
the weight and size is really good, i think Head-direct hits the right spot !!! its not heavy but yet gave you the feeling like back in the days mobile phone is not all about big flat screen etc etc but about how it feels just right in your palm and you really enjoy holding it when ever~~  its much smaller than 801, only mm thicker than 801, width is just right as my thumb nearly touch my index finger~ i believe most people will be able to hold it like cute little thingy lol and the length is only less than 1cm longer than my palm, overall like i said, the design for the size and weight just hits the right spot for me !!   by the way, it doesn't feel like cheap plastic at all and when you shake it? it doesn't make sounds like if some thing inside got drop off and rumble your beloved 602
 
button feels really good !! soft while in place, i mean there weren't any extra space which might make the button going few mm space . you will get addicted pressing around the button lol  how ever the middle button of the directional button is a failure because when you trying to press it you will accidentally press other directional pad as it doesn't stick out !! if this happen to my small hand i wonder what other huge finger will say? this one surely will raise disappointment.
 
i haven't listen to 602 yet but i like the built, the weight, the design etc ! i consider it a success and much more consumer electronic design compare to 801, 801 is a little square

if same design but bigger ? well than i wonder if i can still get 2nd spare battery , so i accept the trade off 

 
as for new 801 amp card and RE262 ?
 
since late Aug, i have been using my 801 LO paired with TF10 pro ~ so i must admit i m not so sure what original amp card sound like

but i can say i like the phone out better than my straight Line out.
 
as for brand new RE262 which haven't been through run-in yet paired with new 801 amp card (which is also not run-in yet) my feeling is wow , nice ~ my 262 sounds like tiny bit channel in-balance but i will have to wait till it finally finish run-in 1st then make my judgment call. how ever since i been using TF10 extensively since late AUG, i can tell you straight away that it does not fall short compare to TF10 !!! with confidence.
 
whether which is exactly better in what and by how much ? extensive testing is needed , but compare to RE0 the situation is for sure different. i own RE0 and i like RE0 better than TF10 and keeping my RE0 while selling my TF10, but i cant say that RE0 is better than TF10 coz it isn't even though just falling short a bit ~ but that little bit i can not quantify hence i can only said TF10 is better than RE0 but RE0 is way better investment and a keeper for the price !!
 
also i never hear of RE252 so i am afraid i wont be able to compare them.
 
(i was writing few line of comment about how 262 sound but i decide to delete it as well, i shouldn't jump the gun too fast, there is no need to hurry, enjoy 262 and 801 1st lol )
 
P.S: sorry , i mean length 1cm longer than my palm when you fingers pointing left or right , not top or forward lol ~ if top or forward and still 1cm longer? than it will be a monster

 

[testrichard]

RE262 + HM 602 = wow, oh my god !!!

 

[yooss]

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RE262 + HM 602 = wow, oh my god !!!

My friend with TF10 and iPod Touch 2nd gen still thinks that is vastly superior than the RE262+HM602. I just can't understand why he is so stubborn about the TF10 being the best of the best universal ever and forever. I'm done talking to him about headphones, even though his TF10 led me into this headphone world.
 

 

[.Sup]

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My friend with TF10 and iPod Touch 2nd gen still thinks that is vastly superior than the RE262+HM602. I just can't understand why he is so stubborn about the TF10 being the best of the best universal ever and forever. I'm done talking to him about headphones, even though his TF10 led me into this headphone world.
 

 
I would smack him in the face if he told me that  

 

[yooss]

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I would smack him in the face if he told me that  

Well, preference, preference. I understand our audio gear is all matter of preference. However what I find quite annoying is that he just listened to a track or two and just plainly said "hhmph TF10 is better"
 
What kind of attitude for a friend is that? Even though I am trying to stop thinking about what he said, it is just too annoying. I'm a pacifist and I don't pick fights, but that was just disrespectful. 
 
And you know what? Some people from the Korean forums are like that(of course not all, and I'm not trying to overgeneralize). When I wrote something about the LCD-2(since I saw all the talking going around this place) in the Korean forums people just said "that's not as half as good as HD800" or something like that. Did they even audition the phone for a second? What gives them the right to speak like that? 
 
That's why I come to Head fi despite my feeling a little troubling with English. I think I like it here.

 

[.Sup]

Some people spend too much time, money and effort to admit a simpler and possibly cheaper piece of equipment coming from a less known manufacturer could be better than their rig. If you say to yourself it won't sound as good as my rig then it probably won't just like when people get a more expensive amp an expect it will sound better. People or friends like that should be outta left alone to live in their fantasy world and not say anything against their "superior" rig.

 

[yooss]

Uhh, I just experienced a strange thing. I don't quite enjoy the repeat function and I always have my option as Once Order. However, after this player played the last track of the album it automatically played the first song and then stopped, playing the first song twice. 
 
A bug perhaps? This is the first time to experience such a strange malfunction from an audio player. 

 

[ClieOS]

Can't be 100% sure about this, but I think the 'album at once' option starts counting with the first songs you play, then circuit back. This means if you play the 2nd songs first, it will stop at the first song; if you start with the 5th songs, it will stop at the 4th songs, etc.

 

[yooss]

I noticed that. What I experienced was the same song playing twice since when I listen to that particular album I start from the first and finish at the end or not hear at all, so I instantly knew something was wrong.

 

[ovrclkd]

OK ... after two months of waiting and anticipation my package finally arrived from Fang, HI FIMAN, head direct or whomever. .... Listening through my UM3X I am not impressed, my walkman & fuse with the D12 (or my Mini^3) smoke it. The normal EQ is terrible and the fixed EQ's are horrible. God only knows how you get into the user EQ settings, I can't figure it out. The USB cable they sent is disgusting, filthy and torn. I won't even go into the 262's, let us just say they are a perfect match sound wise .. even through the Fuse. The battery gets so hot while charging I'm surprised the case hasn't warped. (I wonder what life span that will have ... can you say "short")
 
After two months I feel completely taken advantage of and ripped off. Here's a shot of the cable .. for $400.00 they could have thrown a new 50 cent cable in there. If this came from anywhere in the U.S. they'd be out of business. Sorry for the rant .... I know most of you like yours, I must have gotten the runt of the litter. I think the IASUS speakers in my Shuberth S-1 Helmet Bluetoothed to the Garmin Zumo 550 sound better. Yea it's that bad .....
Here's what they send with a "$400.00" unit. This just isn't right .... at least not where I come from. 

  It's a good thing we have a no swearing rule ... feel free add your own expletives though ... I'd put one in every other word. 
 
Now lets see what kind of customer service we get ......
 

 

[Hero Kid]

My cable was mint so you definitely got jipped. Also I think the HM-602 is dependent A LOT on synergy to make it sound good, so keep playing with different IEMs/headphones if you can.

 

[Anaxilus]

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My cable was mint so you definitely got jipped. Also I think the HM-602 is dependent A LOT on synergy to make it sound good, so keep playing with different IEMs/headphones if you can.

Mine is mint still.  I think he has a certain signature he likes because my sflo2 smokes the Clip/fuze and the 602 beats up on my Sflo2.  /shrug.  Sorry for your experience.  If my package turned up like that I'd be very perturbed to say the least.  Thankfully it didn't and it sounds fantastic!   Some of you asked for pics w/ my Arrow so here they are.  Apologies for not having a 5D Mark II in advance.  Anyone w/ a cheap Lumix micro 4/3rds PM me.  

 

 

[ovrclkd]

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My cable was mint so you definitely got jipped. Also I think the HM-602 is dependent A LOT on synergy to make it sound good, so keep playing with different IEMs/headphones if you can.

Thanks Kid... that's the word I was looking for ... I got "jipped"
 
I tried the 602 with the Grado 325i's and my 702's. The Grado's are better than my UM3X (pity i can't walk around with the 325's on ... well i could!) but thats not what I bought this for or what I assumed it was intended for. I would think a "top of the line" DAP would sound decent through a GOOD pair of IEM's.
I guess I was expecting too much .... maybe guys like me need to stick with the local walmart which sells new products you can return in 90 days for $3.00 in gas. 
I don't get this thing .. I can't wrap my arms around it and after seeing the cable am afraid to touch anything. It's no wonder the ABI guys laugh at us ... whoever packaged this grabbed a cable a 602 a charger and said TS. 
That my friends is a lousy way to do business.