HF-2 vs K701+HD650

[pogodrummer]

Hello there! just a quick question: what would be better? a pair of used grado hf-2 (modded with a viablue 3.5mm plug) or an akgk701 + senn hd650 combo? 
I'd use the phones for almost all genres (maybe not jazz or alot of classical), and i'm a basshead, so DnB, dubstep and hardcore are a major part of the listening.
I also do some stuff in my home studio, so they have to be both musical and detailed.
music running out of my system (flac library to m-audio delta44(modded) to phase linear pre as headphone amp ) and my ipod 5.5g/iphone4 (all 320kb/s or aac, some flacs (rockbox)).
price would be about the same, maybe 20-25€ more for the akg+senn combo.
thank you very much!

 

[Proglover]

HF-2 are nice allrounders, HD-650 too
 
Difference is HF-2 is on the forward side of things soundwise, 650 is on the laid back side of things. I can appreciate both for what they, couldn't choose if I wanted to.
 
But while HF-2 benefits from a dedicated amp, HD-650 needs it.
If you want to use it on an ipod or whatever source, unamped, definitely don't choose 650 or 70X 

 

[pogodrummer]

thank you! yes i suspected the combo would need an amp... what if i got a headstage arrow? would then the combo be better?

 

[Acix]

If you're working in the studio, you'll need a monitor hps like the K-702. Here is more info: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/393139/k702-in-the-studio
 
BTW, you'll need amp and DAC, or some nice sound card.

 

[pogodrummer]

@acix
i believe the k702 are sonically identical to the k701, or so i've been told...
cable is not a problem
i already have my modded delta44 as sound card and a phase linear preamp as headphone amp

 

[Acix]

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@acix
i believe the k702 are sonically identical to the k701, or so i've been told...
cable is not a problem
i already have my modded delta44 as sound card and a phase linear preamp as headphone amp

I don't think the phase linear preamp is a hps amp.
 

 

[Proglover]

701 and 702 are sonically identical yes.
 
I don't consider them musical and since you stated you are a basshead, listening to trance, hardcore etc. I think you can better forget about 70X, these cans have their fans and dislikers (I'm a absolute disliker), but your preferences definitely don't seem to match them
 
I don't have any experience with the Arrow, but I think it's a pretty respectable portable amp

 

[pogodrummer]

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I don't think the phase linear preamp is a hps amp.
 

yep it is, kinda...
http://www.phaselinearhistory.stereomanuals.com/3000preamp.htm
here, 1st pic
 

 

[pogodrummer]

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701 and 702 are sonically identical yes.
 
I don't consider them musical and since you stated you are a basshead, listening to trance, hardcore etc. I think you can better forget about 70X, these cans have their fans and dislikers (I'm a absolute disliker), but your preferences definitely don't seem to match them
 
I don't have any experience with the Arrow, but I think it's a pretty respectable portable amp

thanks  
do you think hf2s are a good choice for that kind of music?
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[NewAKGGuy]

I am a fan and I agree, the K70X series is not for you given your basshead self-designation.
 
Quote:

701 and 702 are sonically identical yes.
 
I don't consider them musical and since you stated you are a basshead, listening to trance, hardcore etc. I think you can better forget about 70X, these cans have their fans and dislikers (I'm a absolute disliker), but your preferences definitely don't seem to match them
 
I don't have any experience with the Arrow, but I think it's a pretty respectable portable amp

 

 

[Proglover]

Quote:

thanks  
do you think hf2s are a good choice for that kind of music?
WOBBWOBBWOBWOBWOBBBBWOBB
 

I don't really listen to electrical music, trance etc.
But I'm not sure HF-2 are ideal for that. That wouldn't do it very bad, but maybe there are better choices.
 
I'd look into Denon (D2000/D5000/D7000) if I were you