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[size=small]This is a multi (4)-part posting as it may be too long as a single post.[/size]
I have always been delaying my decision on the HD800, worrying about the claimed ultra-resolution can make this headphone “boring” over time. A week ago, a very nice and generous local head-fier offered to let me have a good listen to his HD800, and throughout the week, I have the opportunity to put the HD800 through different amps and sources, and have a good comparison with my Qualia 010. The HD800 of my friend is actually quite new and it may not have been fully burned-in. I took notes of my impressions while listening, as well as keep a good record of the major CDs used during these listening sessions.
Instead of writing a full impression, I think it is better to just share the notes of what I heard on the spot, which reflects more of my impression; rather than doing a total recall of the whole week of listening. Please do caution that it is my own pair of ears so preference and impressions may not be the same as yours.
Enough has been said about the construction, comfort, and material used for the HD800 so I better skip this part and jump straight into my listening impressions. BTW, as English is not my native language so please bear with me with the lack of words and structure running down my write-up.
Before we go into the details, please note this is NOT intended to be a full review of the HD800. It is more like a sharing of personal listening impressions. All the gears and CDs, except the HD800, are owned by me. I have no association with any of the suppliers / manufacturers mentioned here below, other than being one of their customers sometime ago.
[size=large]Session 1 : 4 July 2009 : HD800 + Woo Audio 5[/size]
Quite naturally the first listening session started with my most favourite tube amp in-house – my beloved Woo Audio 5, maxxed out, with a pair of Sophia Princess 287B rectifier tube, a pair of KR Audio 300B Globe, and a pair of Tung-Sol chrome top 6SN7GTB; connected to my Emm Labs CDSA SE. Interconnect is a pair of Gabriel Gold Revelation MKII – one of my favourite interconnect series. I listened to the HD800 through the high-Z headphone jack.
CD used was “Ten Tenors, Ten Colors” – a 2007 Japan edition of Venus TKCV-35404. This CD is a collection of extremely well recorded Tenor Sax Players works. On first listen, the HD800 does not display a character of its own. Sure, there is a lot of air around the players, the soundstage is impressively wide but realistic. The resolution was there, but it is not “ultra resolving” as some has claimed. I have listened to this same CD in the same setting for a few times, using the Qualia 010, and in my opinion, the Qualia is still king of resolution. The HD800 did not offer a jaw dropping experience, although I was indeed impressed by the 3-dimensional sound stage. the depth, and layering of music is particularly impressive.
Bass from the HD800 is natural, real, but not plentiful or excessive. Certainly there was no bass bloom of any kind. The bass was tonally correct, with excellent texture. The HD800 actually sound pretty slightly forward, but not in-your-face type. It is not as laid back as the HD650, and sound very easy to the ears. There was no harshness, no edgy, razor-sharp high resolution illusion. All nodes have its own place yet piece together in a very coherent manner.
The HD800 is also fast. Well, pretty fast, but not as fast as the Qualia. My particular pair still sound very slightly “tight” and I guess it may need more burning hours. So I just leave it playing overnight.
Overall, for the first evening, the HD800 behaved well balanced from treble to bass, with impressive extensions at both ends. At the very low registers, my ear can “feel” that low Hz. I must say the Woo Audio 5 helped to make this last bit come through, but it took something like the HD800 to make it to my ears. It was quite an enjoying evening, though not what I would call a revelation.
[size=large]Session 2: 5 July 2009: HD800 + Rudistor RP010B MKII[/size]
Although it was a pleasure to listen to the HD800 through the Woo Audio 5, I somehow felt that it was not the best the HD800 can deliver. So I switch amp – to my Rudistor RP010B MKII. I used single end input from the Emm Labs CDSA SE, and used the high-Z headphone jack with the HD800.
I insert a pure SACD "A Wonderful World" by Tony Bennett & K.D. Lang. This is beautifully recorded pure SACD which does not play on red book player.
The HD800 delivers very live like, almost surreal resolution, quite different from what I heard through the Woo Audio 5. There was very good expression of emotions embedded in this very nice recording. The tender voices of "La Vie En Rose" were just like what you would expect between a pair of lovers. Very natural. Layering is superb. I can detect changes of artists' distance from the mike - something that is not that easily noticed. Overall, the HD800 and RP010B MKII reproduce the recording in a stunningly life-like manner.
The next CD is a Red book CD "Carol Sloane" by Concord Jazz CCD-4971-2.
What an intimate and expressive voice of Carol Sloane ! The spatial distribution of all instruments around the artist is just almost perfect - imaging is pinpoint precision. The most holographic presentation I have ever heard from headphones. I can hear precisely how she breathes in front of the recording mic !
The natural organic sound of the Rudistor seems a very good match to the HD800. There is no bottle neck in resolution - the source, the amp, allowing the HD800 to show its true capability in revealing the most minute details. It was a very enjoyable evening, and one of excitement too, as I have a first grab of what the HD800 is capable of.
[size=large]Session 3: 6 July 2009: HD800 + Rudistor RP010B MKII (continued)[/size]
Having impressed and satisfied with the RP010B MKII, I decided to stick to this amp and listening to a few more demanding CDs.
This time it is my favourite Red Cliff Capriccio - the equipment challenged K2 HD recording (FIM K2 HD 076) which is a technically very “component demanding” recording and therefore a useful tool to test the real capability of a component. For those who are not familiar with this CD, it is essentially an instrument solo recording of a very popular Chinese instrument called “Guzheng”, which demands the highest resolving power and speed to reproduce the complicated multiple string movements, the complex harmonics.
Despite the fact that I have heard this K2 HD recording many many times, I must say it was revelation listening through the HD800! The ultra sharp imaging, stunning speed, and separation of each musical notes are beyond all I have experienced thus far. The unique reverb from the Guzheng is stunningly life like. This is the first time when the sparkling treble extension is remarkably reproduced through the HD800. And despite the fact that I have listened to this K2 HD recording so many times, it is a totally new experience. Bravo ! I was starting to love the HD800.
The "Happy Coat" Shota Osabe Piano Trio is never disappointing through the HD800. This K2 HD CD by LIM (LIM K2HD 031) demonstrates how well controlled bass can be had through the HD800. Sure the Rudistor RP010MKII also contributes, but the tight and well mannered bass revealed the true talent of Ray Brown. The Trio is always a joy to listen to, but through the HD800 it is more than joy - it was excitement !
..... To be continued.
F. Lo
I have always been delaying my decision on the HD800, worrying about the claimed ultra-resolution can make this headphone “boring” over time. A week ago, a very nice and generous local head-fier offered to let me have a good listen to his HD800, and throughout the week, I have the opportunity to put the HD800 through different amps and sources, and have a good comparison with my Qualia 010. The HD800 of my friend is actually quite new and it may not have been fully burned-in. I took notes of my impressions while listening, as well as keep a good record of the major CDs used during these listening sessions.
Instead of writing a full impression, I think it is better to just share the notes of what I heard on the spot, which reflects more of my impression; rather than doing a total recall of the whole week of listening. Please do caution that it is my own pair of ears so preference and impressions may not be the same as yours.
Enough has been said about the construction, comfort, and material used for the HD800 so I better skip this part and jump straight into my listening impressions. BTW, as English is not my native language so please bear with me with the lack of words and structure running down my write-up.
Before we go into the details, please note this is NOT intended to be a full review of the HD800. It is more like a sharing of personal listening impressions. All the gears and CDs, except the HD800, are owned by me. I have no association with any of the suppliers / manufacturers mentioned here below, other than being one of their customers sometime ago.
[size=large]Session 1 : 4 July 2009 : HD800 + Woo Audio 5[/size]
Quite naturally the first listening session started with my most favourite tube amp in-house – my beloved Woo Audio 5, maxxed out, with a pair of Sophia Princess 287B rectifier tube, a pair of KR Audio 300B Globe, and a pair of Tung-Sol chrome top 6SN7GTB; connected to my Emm Labs CDSA SE. Interconnect is a pair of Gabriel Gold Revelation MKII – one of my favourite interconnect series. I listened to the HD800 through the high-Z headphone jack.
CD used was “Ten Tenors, Ten Colors” – a 2007 Japan edition of Venus TKCV-35404. This CD is a collection of extremely well recorded Tenor Sax Players works. On first listen, the HD800 does not display a character of its own. Sure, there is a lot of air around the players, the soundstage is impressively wide but realistic. The resolution was there, but it is not “ultra resolving” as some has claimed. I have listened to this same CD in the same setting for a few times, using the Qualia 010, and in my opinion, the Qualia is still king of resolution. The HD800 did not offer a jaw dropping experience, although I was indeed impressed by the 3-dimensional sound stage. the depth, and layering of music is particularly impressive.
Bass from the HD800 is natural, real, but not plentiful or excessive. Certainly there was no bass bloom of any kind. The bass was tonally correct, with excellent texture. The HD800 actually sound pretty slightly forward, but not in-your-face type. It is not as laid back as the HD650, and sound very easy to the ears. There was no harshness, no edgy, razor-sharp high resolution illusion. All nodes have its own place yet piece together in a very coherent manner.
The HD800 is also fast. Well, pretty fast, but not as fast as the Qualia. My particular pair still sound very slightly “tight” and I guess it may need more burning hours. So I just leave it playing overnight.
Overall, for the first evening, the HD800 behaved well balanced from treble to bass, with impressive extensions at both ends. At the very low registers, my ear can “feel” that low Hz. I must say the Woo Audio 5 helped to make this last bit come through, but it took something like the HD800 to make it to my ears. It was quite an enjoying evening, though not what I would call a revelation.
[size=large]Session 2: 5 July 2009: HD800 + Rudistor RP010B MKII[/size]
Although it was a pleasure to listen to the HD800 through the Woo Audio 5, I somehow felt that it was not the best the HD800 can deliver. So I switch amp – to my Rudistor RP010B MKII. I used single end input from the Emm Labs CDSA SE, and used the high-Z headphone jack with the HD800.
I insert a pure SACD "A Wonderful World" by Tony Bennett & K.D. Lang. This is beautifully recorded pure SACD which does not play on red book player.
The HD800 delivers very live like, almost surreal resolution, quite different from what I heard through the Woo Audio 5. There was very good expression of emotions embedded in this very nice recording. The tender voices of "La Vie En Rose" were just like what you would expect between a pair of lovers. Very natural. Layering is superb. I can detect changes of artists' distance from the mike - something that is not that easily noticed. Overall, the HD800 and RP010B MKII reproduce the recording in a stunningly life-like manner.
The next CD is a Red book CD "Carol Sloane" by Concord Jazz CCD-4971-2.
What an intimate and expressive voice of Carol Sloane ! The spatial distribution of all instruments around the artist is just almost perfect - imaging is pinpoint precision. The most holographic presentation I have ever heard from headphones. I can hear precisely how she breathes in front of the recording mic !
The natural organic sound of the Rudistor seems a very good match to the HD800. There is no bottle neck in resolution - the source, the amp, allowing the HD800 to show its true capability in revealing the most minute details. It was a very enjoyable evening, and one of excitement too, as I have a first grab of what the HD800 is capable of.
[size=large]Session 3: 6 July 2009: HD800 + Rudistor RP010B MKII (continued)[/size]
Having impressed and satisfied with the RP010B MKII, I decided to stick to this amp and listening to a few more demanding CDs.
This time it is my favourite Red Cliff Capriccio - the equipment challenged K2 HD recording (FIM K2 HD 076) which is a technically very “component demanding” recording and therefore a useful tool to test the real capability of a component. For those who are not familiar with this CD, it is essentially an instrument solo recording of a very popular Chinese instrument called “Guzheng”, which demands the highest resolving power and speed to reproduce the complicated multiple string movements, the complex harmonics.
Despite the fact that I have heard this K2 HD recording many many times, I must say it was revelation listening through the HD800! The ultra sharp imaging, stunning speed, and separation of each musical notes are beyond all I have experienced thus far. The unique reverb from the Guzheng is stunningly life like. This is the first time when the sparkling treble extension is remarkably reproduced through the HD800. And despite the fact that I have listened to this K2 HD recording so many times, it is a totally new experience. Bravo ! I was starting to love the HD800.
The "Happy Coat" Shota Osabe Piano Trio is never disappointing through the HD800. This K2 HD CD by LIM (LIM K2HD 031) demonstrates how well controlled bass can be had through the HD800. Sure the Rudistor RP010MKII also contributes, but the tight and well mannered bass revealed the true talent of Ray Brown. The Trio is always a joy to listen to, but through the HD800 it is more than joy - it was excitement !
..... To be continued.
F. Lo