Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[Ceeluh7]

I dunno'. I might have to check out the P1+ for giggles. @ RikudouGoku seems to think they are much improved from the OG P1, and he scored the P1 pretty high, even though he thought them bright (which I did not). I am not too sure about them being better though, because the P1 are the planar IEM that all others must stack up to (IMO), being the first BIG seller of planar IEM (iSine10 don't really count because they sucked until they released the Cypher cable).

To be honest there is too much out there to try. I have the same feelings about the p1+ as reviewers seem to be grading them a bit higher as you've pointed out. You know how this hobby goes with a new set though, there is always a hype period and normally I like to wait till the dust settles a bit before I bite past a certain price point. I did hear that there is a slight rise in the low end to the p1+ as well as a supposed correction to the brightness you referred to. You are right... The original P1 is the set that all others must be pitted against. I personally liked it well enough yet there was some missing elements that I think my library requires but... No doubt it is one heckuva set for the asking price.

 

[Ceeluh7]

Haven't seen these posted, though they look to be more call/productivity oriented than music:
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/headsets/zone-true-wireless-earbuds.985-001081.html

There's an app with EQ, Qi wireless, ANC (6hrs) w/transparency, IP68 and multi-point but I can't tell if that's because of the adapter or in spite of it...

Feature packed! I didn't notice what codec these were sporting, I think I was reading too fast. They come with a hefty price tag for sure but also have alot to offer... Thanks for sharing

 

[samandhi]

To be honest there is too much out there to try. I have the same feelings about the p1+ as reviewers seem to be grading them a bit higher as you've pointed out. You know how this hobby goes with a new set though, there is always a hype period and normally I like to wait till the dust settles a bit before I bite past a certain price point. I did hear that there is a slight rise in the low end to the p1+ as well as a supposed correction to the brightness you referred to. You are right... The original P1 is the set that all others must be pitted against. I personally liked it well enough yet there was some missing elements that I think my library requires but... No doubt it is one heckuva set for the asking price.

All I can say is: Great minds must think alike!

 

[Phaethon]

So last night, I noticed that while my UTWS5's were charging in the case, they were randomly trying to connect to my smartphone. Looks like I am not immune to some of the bugs/issues with the UTWS5 but hopefully it can be corrected via firmware soon.

UTWS5 is very connection aggressive for me too!

 

[Phaethon]

Ya I tried with the Arias and they stay on but not well... Which in turn means... They don't work with the AZ09 Pro. I currently have the KZ ZAS on them and man these are perfect for these adapters to me. Good clean and punchy bass with the high gain enabled. The Mids sound good, not recessed and the highs sparkle well enough.

I got a good grip on the Moondrop Blessing 2 by using those little tiny connector/converters on the UTWS5 MMCX. The Moondrops can’t stay on the UTWS5 2 pins, but this actually does the trick.

 

[Phaethon]

Fiio FH5, TRI I3 pro, fiio fd5 if you can find a sale, Kato, Hana 2021, Tanchjim Oxygen (big brother to Hana), final audio e5000 (harder to drive), ikko oh10. These are a start, there is a bunch more but I don't want to throw too many at you and of course what @erockg said...Mangird Tea if you can go higher. I'd check some reviews as all of these have plenty of reviews out there

Just got those Ikko OH10s today and they are making me grin on the UTWS5.

 

[Phaethon]

After spending some more time with the Technics AZ60 I really, really like them!

After some more EQ-ing, the bass is now less bloated but still very present.
Vocals sound really good, the sound is overall just smooth and not fatiguing at all. Seems detailed enough.
Feel like they're better for pop and electronic music over guitar-based/heavy music, but tinkering with the EQ I think most people could find enjoyment out of these earbuds.
I still feel like I'm trying to find the "perfect" sound for me in earbuds and I haven't found it so far, but these come somewhat close.
Fit is superb though they make my ears produce more wet earwax (maybe TMI). I prefer a deep fit, but it seems like my ears don't. Will probably try to find a good set of more shallow-fitting earbuds for my next pair.
Call quality seems to be very good (especially for not being stem-style) even if it seems sensitive to wind.
ANC is great, but not excellent. As long as you're playing music at reasonable levels you're probably not going to be bothered, but I noticed that I could hear my bathroom faucet with these way more than some other buds that I have.
The touch-triggered pads on the buds are a bit too sensitive. I had the hood on my jacket up the other day because it was raining like crazy and it kept pausing and playing the music because the earbuds just slightly touched the fabric on the inside of the hood.

I wish I could find an earbud that had the bass capabilites of the Devialet Geminis with the mids of the Technics AZ60 and the highs of the... I don't know, Sennheiser MTW2's, maybe? Deep sub-bass rumble with at least a little bit of slam in the mid-bass (when the song requires it) with clear mids and some slight focus on vocals and clarity, with slightly more "crisp" highs.

Fokus Pro. Really quite amazing. Open box available for $296 at audio46 earlier today.

 

[Phaethon]

Couldn’t get the adapters to stay connected to the Fiio app. Would connect for a split sec then go back to disconnected screen. Sending them back to Audio46 (on my dime).

Same problem. I fixed it by deleting the pairing in my iPhones Bluetooth and re-pairing them by having the app discover them and pair and then it asks to pair to my phone. Works now

 

[alchemical]

Fokus Pro. Really quite amazing. Open box available for $296 at audio46 earlier today.

They really are.

 

[Caipirina]

After spending some more time with the Technics AZ60 I really, really like them!

After some more EQ-ing, the bass is now less bloated but still very present.
Vocals sound really good, the sound is overall just smooth and not fatiguing at all. Seems detailed enough.
Feel like they're better for pop and electronic music over guitar-based/heavy music, but tinkering with the EQ I think most people could find enjoyment out of these earbuds.
I still feel like I'm trying to find the "perfect" sound for me in earbuds and I haven't found it so far, but these come somewhat close.
Fit is superb though they make my ears produce more wet earwax (maybe TMI). I prefer a deep fit, but it seems like my ears don't. Will probably try to find a good set of more shallow-fitting earbuds for my next pair.
Call quality seems to be very good (especially for not being stem-style) even if it seems sensitive to wind.
ANC is great, but not excellent. As long as you're playing music at reasonable levels you're probably not going to be bothered, but I noticed that I could hear my bathroom faucet with these way more than some other buds that I have.
The touch-triggered pads on the buds are a bit too sensitive. I had the hood on my jacket up the other day because it was raining like crazy and it kept pausing and playing the music because the earbuds just slightly touched the fabric on the inside of the hood.

I wish I could find an earbud that had the bass capabilites of the Devialet Geminis with the mids of the Technics AZ60 and the highs of the... I don't know, Sennheiser MTW2's, maybe? Deep sub-bass rumble with at least a little bit of slam in the mid-bass (when the song requires it) with clear mids and some slight focus on vocals and clarity, with slightly more "crisp" highs.

It is terrible how I feel being 'pushed' into 'I need the AZ60' ...
I have both the Sony XM4 and the Bose QC, love them both and so far have not seen anything that makes me think the AZ60 could be better in this or that department. I still also use the Fiil T2Pro more than anything else, because they are easy to pocket, perfect to wear under winter hats (the Bose are too bulky and the Sony surprised me today with interpreting the hat as fingers and wanting to start bluetooth pairing once I put the hat on!), they also sound amazing!
So, WHY is it that I still feel I need YET ANOTHER SET?

 

[sgtbilko]

I dunno'. I might have to check out the P1+ for giggles. @ RikudouGoku seems to think they are much improved from the OG P1, and he scored the P1 pretty high, even though he thought them bright (which I did not). I am not too sure about them being better though, because the P1 are the planar IEM that all others must stack up to (IMO), being the first BIG seller of planar IEM (iSine10 don't really count because they sucked until they released the Cypher cable).

I'm using the P1+ with the UTWS3 right now. Out of the box, they sound ok, but lack bass. After EQ (using autoeq settings and adding a slight bass boost) they are wonderful. So... if you aren't able to EQ them, I'd say steer clear. If you can EQ, then they put you in another world altogether.

 

[Ceeluh7]

I got a good grip on the Moondrop Blessing 2 by using those little tiny connector/converters on the UTWS5 MMCX. The Moondrops can’t stay on the UTWS5 2 pins, but this actually does the trick.

That is great... Which converter adapter thingies are you using. I have been wanting to put my arias on my utws5

 

[Ceeluh7]

Just got those Ikko OH10s today and they are making me grin on the UTWS5.

I'm sure you are enjoying them... A very nice set. I'm betting they sound great on the utws5. I miss my oh10's. I think I'm going to try to pick up a pair again. Such a great set

 

[dmphile]

Just got those Ikko OH10s today and they are making me grin on the UTWS5.

That'll be my new combo to try soon as well! Can't wait, they're on the way now with ETA in about a week or so. Let me know your thoughts!

 

[chinmie]

Now my BT20S Pro features "EQ changes"