Jan 19, 2022 at 7:15 PM Post #41,956 of 70,505
I am enjoying the JH3 quite a bit. Doesn't have to be the best technical earphone but the signature and personality is up their with the best for me. So many times they try to get the resolution and the most extension on the highs or try to force detail and they lose the engagement and fun and immersion factor. JH3 is better than its price but won't take home the technical crown but but it does everything pretty good and has a draw in all three areas so that it only gives you positive and fun traits blended together in a more special way than a lot of earphones and that has nothing to do with price.

CKS50TW is also a very good all rounder and with EQ and losing the bit of heft it has when outside it makes a lot of sense. Big and enjoyable out there playing ball or in the winter wind is sounds more like a headphone. Not as good sitting around indoors comparing on technical merits but for it's intended use as a portable makes it shine more plus it just works with no issues and has good ergonomics and battery life is a non issue. Besides it is just a 5 series which is the middle since AT goes 1,3,5,7, and 9.

Unless they nail the fun and likable listen as well I will usually take the more enjoyable one. The best performers have not been my favorites as much as some lower models have been. Tough to get both my preferred taste and great ability combined.
Hey man, thank you for the rec of the Fiio JH3. $39 bucks shouldn't give you this type of fun and musical set. Just enough air and enough low end. The Mids aren't drowned out too much either. I'm glad I went for these... So far you are one of the only people who have really given them a chance. Maybe a couple short reviews on forums here and there but.... Nice I do like the tonality. I have only had them a few hours but so far so good.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:18 PM Post #41,957 of 70,505
I have a question for those who have the noble fokus pros. Do you guys have connection issues with the right bud? Indoors, I get a little better connection, with it cutting in and out occasionally, but outside it was cutting in and out like crazy. Reminded me of the Sony wf1000Xs. I really hate to send these back. Even despite not having transparency and anc (I don’t think these really need anc with how good the passive cancelling is) they sound so great.
 
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Jan 19, 2022 at 7:30 PM Post #41,958 of 70,505
Hey man, thank you for the rec of the Fiio JH3. $39 bucks shouldn't give you this type of fun and musical set. Just enough air and enough low end. The Mids aren't drowned out too much either. I'm glad I went for these... So far you are one of the only people who have really given them a chance. Maybe a couple short reviews on forums here and there but.... Nice I do like the tonality. I have only had them a few hours but so far so good.
Not many impressions but pretty much the same conclusions. A bit of run in and the ends calm down slightly for more mids focus and if you have some tips that give an even better bass timbre they really are hard to put down. Again, fun and musicality need not be related to price point. FiiO did a nice job and no firmware upgrade necessary.
 
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Jan 19, 2022 at 7:33 PM Post #41,959 of 70,505
Not many impressions but pretty much the same conclusions. A bit of run in and the ends calm down slightly for more mids focus and if you have some tips that give an even better bass timbre they really are hard to put down. FiiO did a nice job and no firmware upgrade necessary.
I am burning them in a bit but I like them. I don't think I need to cable swap either, it really isn't that bad. The same cable that came with the Fd3. Anyways, just wanted to give you some props... They are a very nice budget set that replays above its price point... I came to that conclusion after only a couple hours. And yes, I will always agree that it is nice to not need any upgrades
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:35 PM Post #41,960 of 70,505
I have a question for those who have the noble fokus pros. Do you guys have connection issues with the right bud? Indoors, I get a little better connection, with it cutting in and out occasionally, but outside it was cutting in and out like crazy. Reminded me of the Sony wf1000Xs. I really hate to send these back. Even despite not having transparency and anc (I don’t think these really need anc with how good the passive cancelling is) they sound so great.
I get it on occasion, but not frequently. I have not gone on walks outside with them or anything yet, but have been outside on the patio. The Noble folks are really responsive via mail and might be worth dropping them a question about it?
 
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Jan 19, 2022 at 7:36 PM Post #41,961 of 70,505
FiiO has a long history with players and things that have software. They need like three versions till they get it right and not a good record of finishing giving things some might want. Waiting on FiiO firmware to address things properly is one scary proposition. Good luck! :)
I couldn't have said it better if I tried. I haven't owned a Fiio product since the days when they very first got into the hi-res DAP scene (think X1, X3, X5). I actually still have my X5 OG, and X3II, but never use them. They never finished the FW updates to the software before suddenly abandoning them for their first android DAP. The "in house" software programming type of DAPs was over for good, finished or not. Of course, it is just as much my fault. I Bought them knowing they were sort of half baked, even while Fiio admitted they were, but promised to diligently work on the FW as they went.

I guess I still haven't forgiven them for that. I don't actively hate them though (regardless of my above paragraph) and have been considering purchasing the UTWSx, as you may/may not know..... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:52 PM Post #41,962 of 70,505
I get it on occasion, but not frequently. I have not gone on walks outside with them or anything yet, but have been outside on the patio. The Noble folks are really responsive via mail and might be worth dropping them a question about it?
Thanks for the reply. I’ll do that when I get a chance. Before now, I had only used them inside. When I used them outside, I was moving around a lot. It could be, because of the sound quality, the Bluetooth connection suffers more than others. I’ll just have to contact them and see what they say.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:54 PM Post #41,963 of 70,505
I couldn't have said it better if I tried. I haven't owned a Fiio product since the days when they very first got into the hi-res DAP scene (think X1, X3, X5). I actually still have my X5 OG, and X3II, but never use them. They never finished the FW updates to the software before suddenly abandoning them for their first android DAP. The "in house" software programming type of DAPs was over for good, finished or not. Of course, it is just as much my fault. I Bought them knowing they were sort of half baked, even while Fiio admitted they were, but promised to diligently work on the FW as they went.

I guess I still haven't forgiven them for that. I don't actively hate them though (regardless of my above paragraph) and have been considering purchasing the UTWSx, as you may/may not know..... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Man I have had good experience with all Fiio products. I own quite a few of their iems, had a couple fiio Daps and still use my fiio m11 on occasion. I suppose they need to step up their game in the wireless segment and maybe they prob are behind on updates as opposed to other companies but if you think of value for the money... At least for me there isn't many companies that give more
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:54 PM Post #41,964 of 70,505
Thanks for the reply. I’ll do that when I get a chance. Before now, I had only used them inside. When I used them outside, I was moving around a lot. It could be, because of the sound quality, the Bluetooth connection suffers more than others. I’ll just have to contact them and see what they say.
Haven't taken mine outside either, but indoors, I've had the right bud stutter every now and then. Nothing concerning... YET.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:54 PM Post #41,965 of 70,505
I couldn't have said it better if I tried. I haven't owned a Fiio product since the days when they very first got into the hi-res DAP scene (think X1, X3, X5). I actually still have my X5 OG, and X3II, but never use them. They never finished the FW updates to the software before suddenly abandoning them for their first android DAP. The "in house" software programming type of DAPs was over for good, finished or not. Of course, it is just as much my fault. I Bought them knowing they were sort of half baked, even while Fiio admitted they were, but promised to diligently work on the FW as they went.

I guess I still haven't forgiven them for that. I don't actively hate them though (regardless of my above paragraph) and have been considering purchasing the UTWSx, as you may/may not know..... :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
You guys are scaring me off! I have an unopened UTWS5 sitting here while I wait for my Shuoer S12. I got the FIIO because every other post in the LETSHUOER thread seems to say that they like a good amp and I figured that was the FIIO. Maybe I should just go with the AZ09 Pros to start?
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:56 PM Post #41,966 of 70,505
Thanks for the reply. I’ll do that when I get a chance. Before now, I had only used them inside. When I used them outside, I was moving around a lot. It could be, because of the sound quality, the Bluetooth connection suffers more than others. I’ll just have to contact them and see what they say.
Quite possible. I will try and take mine on the next dog walk and see if it happens more for me. I use mine about the same as you have, primarily inside so far.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:56 PM Post #41,967 of 70,505
You guys are scaring me off! I have an unopened UTWS5 sitting here while I wait for my Shuoer S12. I got the FIIO because every other post in the LETSHUOER thread seems to say that they like a good amp and I figured that was the FIIO. Maybe I should just go with the AZ09 Pros to start?
I literally just dropped mine off at the Amazon store. Kept the UTWS3 instead. They do not seem to have any of the same issues I had with the 5s. Sorry :( AND, I'm using those AZ09 Pro right now. Both the above adapters are great, but for the price, you just can't go wrong with taking a shot with the KZ adapters.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:57 PM Post #41,968 of 70,505
You guys are scaring me off! I have an unopened UTWS5 sitting here while I wait for my Shuoer S12. I got the FIIO because every other post in the LETSHUOER thread seems to say that they like a good amp and I figured that was the FIIO. Maybe I should just go with the AZ09 Pros to start?
Idk man... That has a planar driver and you might want to check the sensitivity. I don't think the az09 pro will have enough to drive those to full potential. I haven't had issues with utws5 but if you want to rid yourself of concern then take em back. I haven't checked sensitivity on them yet so I don't know for sure
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:57 PM Post #41,969 of 70,505
Haven't taken mine outside either, but indoors, I've had the right bud stutter every now and then. Nothing concerning... YET.
That’s the same experience I had indoors, but outside and actively moving around a lot, it was pretty bad. What I was doing was moving tree limbs out of the yard. Took about a half hour and the right bud cut in and out the entire time.
 
Jan 19, 2022 at 7:58 PM Post #41,970 of 70,505
That’s the same experience I had indoors, but outside and actively moving around a lot, it was pretty bad. What I was doing was moving tree limbs out of the yard. Took about a half hour and the right bud cut in and out the entire time.
Ugh, bummer. I'll have to take myself out for a walk and test them outside. I don't have a dog.
 

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