Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Aug 6, 2020 at 9:30 PM Post #24,391 of 62,596
Can someone recommend a TWS IEM for me? Mainly for doing chores outdoor(pair with iPhone), no need ANC. I have a QCY T1S and unimpressed by the sound, sounded muffle, lack of bass(bad fit?), lack of details to me. I'm eyeing on QCY T5, HELM TWS 50, Tranya B530, FIIL T1. These are some options I can get in Australia, thoughts? :)
 
Aug 6, 2020 at 10:04 PM Post #24,393 of 62,596
Ordered Samsung galaxy buds live just now. Will be here on Saturday.
 
Aug 7, 2020 at 12:20 AM Post #24,396 of 62,596
Can someone recommend a TWS IEM for me? Mainly for doing chores outdoor(pair with iPhone), no need ANC. I have a QCY T1S and unimpressed by the sound, sounded muffle, lack of bass(bad fit?), lack of details to me. I'm eyeing on QCY T5, HELM TWS 50, Tranya B530, FIIL T1. These are some options I can get in Australia, thoughts? :)

Nuarl N6/Pro or Soundcore Liberty 2 Pro
 
Aug 7, 2020 at 12:47 AM Post #24,398 of 62,596
I feel that at $80, the original Galaxy Buds aren't going to fall farther in price anymore, but the Buds + should be dropping to 100-120 sooon now, I think...

I already bought international model for $100 at Ebay. Confirmed its not a fake. I bought Jabra refurbished Elite 75T for $99. While original packaging was not there it looked new. Both of them are quite good for the cost. I am really tempted by buds live if the gizmodo article that ANC is getting fixed through software updates. It may not be at APP level but if it does somewhat a decent job and audio quality is not a big regression from buds+, its worth a buy.
 
Aug 7, 2020 at 3:05 AM Post #24,399 of 62,596
Interesting. I'm hearing a scratchy artifact only present when using the SBC codec. I was told by multiple users of the same issue though a few said it sounded fine. For whatever reason Samsung set a low bitpool than typical for SBC. Considering you're using a first-party Microsoft product I wonder if it is related to Bluetooth drivers and whether they can force a high bitrate. Unfortunately it sounds poor on my ASUS Zenbook Pro 15 (BT5.0, Intel drivers) and my Note 9 when using SBC.
The driver for the buds+:

Buds+ Avrcp transport:
  • 16/03/2019
  • 10.0.18362.1

Buds+:
  • 21/06/2006
  • 10.0.18362.693

If there's any way of checking which codec its using please let me know
 
Aug 7, 2020 at 3:07 AM Post #24,400 of 62,596
Anyone here tried XROUND Versa? It's a Taiwanese product - has optional fins, AptX + USB-C + Qi charging, IP67. Spinfit tips included. Some impressions I've seen suggest it's great for instrumental music but vocals are recessed.
 
Aug 7, 2020 at 4:14 AM Post #24,401 of 62,596
Put in your ears, hold both buttons for 4 seconds and power off.

Then hold both buttons for 20-30 seconds, you should hear power on, followed by 2 sets of descending tones.

After the 2nd set of tones they should power down and be completely reset.

Power back on and they will be in pairing mode for each other (both blinking blue). Click each side button once to pair to each other.

Once only one side is blinking red/blue (paired to each other), pair to your phone (left side only, it is the master iirc).

Thanks, I had done it a few times already with no luck, my first new attempt failed again but it worked the second time ! The trick was to only click once on the left (master indeed) bud once and not on the on the right one. Glad to have them back !
 
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Aug 7, 2020 at 4:18 AM Post #24,402 of 62,596
Thanks, I had done a few times already with no luck, my first new attempt failed again but it worked the second time ! The trick was to only click once on the left (master indeed) bud once and not on the on the right one. Glad to have them back !

Glad it worked.



I edited my post about only clicking the left/master for future reference. :wink:
 
Aug 7, 2020 at 6:01 AM Post #24,405 of 62,596
The driver for the buds+:

Buds+ Avrcp transport:
  • 16/03/2019
  • 10.0.18362.1

Buds+:
  • 21/06/2006
  • 10.0.18362.693

If there's any way of checking which codec its using please let me know
Not sure exactly how to check codec but Windows 10 only supports AptX and SBC. So the Buds+ will only be using SBC codec since it doesn't support AptX.

I think those driver numbers correspond to your Win10 build, mine is the 2004 update.
Buds+ AVRCP Transport:
12/6/2019
10.0.19041.1
Buds+
6/21/2006
10.0.19041.1

I just updated my Intel Bluetooth driver version to 21.110.0.3 - no change.

Another test track. Pay attention to the strings at 1:01
 

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