Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[musiclover2015]

How are those Apanage T20? I see they have AptX and they sell currently at 18€ over by the river people

 

[musiclover2015]

Here are my overall favs right now. Keep in mind that The only TWS' that I EQ are ones that have apps. L2pro, XM3's and the FIIL.

1. Sony WF-1000xm3
2. Liberty 2 Pro
3. SSK BT-03
3. Anbes 359
3. Earfun Free
4. Fiil T1x
5. Tranya BT530
6. MW07
7. Lystar J29
8. Tranya T3
8. MPOW M5
9. Chisana C1L
10. 1More Stylish (with some EQing of the highs) could be ranked higher.
10. Apanage T20

Honorable Mentions QCY T1S, it's been a while since I listened to them and some I didnt' keep. Tevi, Bomaker Sifi, Backbay Duet 50, Kanoe, Tranya T1.

No mention of Phaiser Fusion ones?? Am I the only one finding those so good !!!!! For me, they will sound better than Sony's signature sound all day every day...
Are there any other TWS that get as loud as Phaisers but with wider soundstage???

 

[Hoplite]

So what's the best iem I can get with $200ish? It has been a while since I got into true wireless market

 

[Tronsmart Official]

I get around 6-7 hours of battery life on Sabbat E12 Ultra, and the case seems to last over 24 hours as I can listen to them for about a week.

The Tronsmart Onyx Neo only lasts about 2.5 to 3 hours for me. They constantly emit a noticeable hiss, especially the left buds which sounds somewhat brighter in the mids and treble. There was another user here who complained about short battery life but found that this was only because one side got a "low battery warning" and you could get another 3 hours with the other bud as the master. Still, I never had this issue with Sabbat E12 Ultra. Also has no battery indicator on the case!


I find the Buds+ to last long but the case is potato and often drains within the first day (when listening for 6-8 hours, sometimes even less). Wish there was a third-party case with large battery life and I'm surprised there's none except a DIY post on Reddit.

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Thank you very much.
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[Tronsmart Official]

Great! Will wait for couple of reviews and then order it!

Hope you will like it!

 

[assassin10000]

The buds work just fine. I don't think I can get replacement.

I don't know about where you are but I can find buds+ cases on ebay for $50'ish. Or if you want the older buds case around $25+.

So what's the best iem I can get with $200ish? It has been a while since I got into true wireless market

My current shortlist & amazon prices would be:
Akg N400 ($190)
WF-1000XM3 ($180new/110refurb/100used)
Nuarl N6 Pro ($160)
Buds ($150)


I've had the XM3 & buds+. Both are good but differently tuned. Haven't tried the n6 pro or n400 (yet).

 

[assassin10000]

I used to buy 6-8 inexpensive chi-fi TWS every year for last few years.

Not doing that anymore after getting the AKG N400.

Heck I like the N400 even more than some of my wired IEMs (Thieaudio L3 or L9).

Copied here, feels like it's relevant.


I had the Buds+ but found the mids a bit thin and just a little too V-shaped for me. Have you heard both those and the n400?

Considering what I want to try next.

 

[tgx78]

Copied here, feels like it's relevant.


I had the Buds+ but found the mids a bit thin and just a little too V-shaped for me. Have you heard both those and the n400?

Considering what I want to try next.

Sorry I haven’t heard the Buds+ So can’t help you there, however I found this frequency response comparison between the two.

 

[webvan]

@Caipirina - the SP800N appeared on Amazon Europe out of the blue, have yours been shipped ? I'd cancelled my order, might give it another go...

 

[FYLegend]

Hi,
Sorry for the inconvenience. Could you please PM your email address? We will arrange our customer service contact with you. Any product problem, we will solve it. Or you can also contact our customer service: support@tronsmart.com. Tronsmart pays attention to all customers. We also care about the product quality.
Thank you very much.
Best&Regards
Tronsmart

I contacted you a few months ago but didn't get around around to sending back the product. After some adjustments I am quite satisfied with them overall. I look forward to your next release.

 

[Caipirina]

@Caipirina - the SP800N appeared on Amazon Europe out of the blue, have yours been shipped ? I'd cancelled my order, might give it another go...

cancelled mine and do not feel like trying again ...

(amazon.de now says 'temporarily out of stock')

 

[assassin10000]

Sorry I haven’t heard the Buds+ So can’t help you there, however I found this frequency response comparison between the two.

Unfortunately graphs don't tell the whole story.

How close they measure does have me hesitant to pull the trigger on them.

 

[tgx78]

Unfortunately graphs don't tell the whole story.

How close they measure does have me hesitant to pull the trigger on them.

Well at least they have totally different drivers in them.

AKG N400 has 8.2mm diameter driver.

Buds + has 6mm x 6mm square shaped driver.

 

[webvan]

cancelled mine and do not feel like trying again ...

(amazon.de now says 'temporarily out of stock')

Strange it's still available for order via Amazon FR but yes, I'm not sure it's worth the "hassle"...Even if the wings manage to maintain the seal they're still going to be sticking out by a country mile I need to check to see if new reviews are available. Hopefully the N400 will make it to Europe at some point.

BTW have you received your MW07 ?

 

[assassin10000]

Well at least they have totally different drivers in them.

AKG N400 has 8.2mm diameter driver.

Buds + has 6mm x 6mm square shaped driver.

Yeah. Kinda why I haven't completely dismissed them from contention.

I'm still sorting out my preferred sound signature, after having the Buds+, I think Harman isn't it. That or because the Buds+ was somewhat colder sounding to me.

I think I prefer some warmth with a lower amount of pinna gain and a modest bass/sub-bass lift. Smaller U/V shape. Also why I haven't tried the MW07+/go, it appears to be even more V shaped.