May 7, 2019 at 10:28 PM Post #6,693 of 70,805
May 8, 2019 at 12:18 AM Post #6,696 of 70,805
When you guys wear them, do they work best with silicone wings or some type of silicone cover to help the stay in place?

I personally feel like the pod style of earbud always wants to fall out, no matter if it’s OEM Apple or 3rd party hard wired pods (like my MEMT T5). I always have to use a silicone cover with a wing.

And do you have to remove the covers to recharge them, or does the charge case accommodate for a cover?

Thanks :)

i use thin earbud foams on my sabbats. raises the bass impact a bit while still retains the airy sound.. bonus is it can still charge in the case


The included silicone wings do not fit the charging case. I always wore mine without them, as they fit pretty well without them given their shape. The main body was captured by the earpod at the front and the anti-tragus at the rear. Pretty comfortable and fairly secure.

I actually shortened the earpod opening a bit on mine.


In any case, I also wore foams for increased bass. I ended up making some offset donut style ones to retain the mids/treble. Similar to using thin foams but less itchy to me:

The leather punches I ordered showed up today. They work great to mod the earbud foams I'm using on the Sabbat X12 Pro. Used the 4mm size.




Also x12 and x12 pro is the same, just didnt type the 'pro' part. It is the E12 you want to avoid iirc.
 
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May 8, 2019 at 1:13 AM Post #6,697 of 70,805
Is E12 not really worth it? There's a huge hype on YouTube recently. It seems to tick all the boxes for me (USB Type C, wireless charging, bassy sound). I'm just wondering how they compare to something like the Astrotec S60 or Jabra 65t.

Would like something with an "ambient sound" function though.

Also, Astrotec said they were gonna announce a new TWS on Facebook in April, but this seems to be delayed and yesterday they posted a teaser sketch:
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The shape in the middle - could it be the diamond design similar to what they used for the GX40/BX70? Would be nice to see their own design language rather than the generic housing they used for S60 (which creaks quite a bit after extended use).
 

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May 8, 2019 at 2:47 AM Post #6,698 of 70,805
Is E12 not really worth it? There's a huge hype on YouTube recently. It seems to tick all the boxes for me (USB Type C, wireless charging, bassy sound). I'm just wondering how they compare to something like the Astrotec S60 or Jabra 65t.

Would like something with an "ambient sound" function though.

Also, Astrotec said they were gonna announce a new TWS on Facebook in April, but this seems to be delayed and yesterday they posted a teaser sketch:

The shape in the middle - could it be the diamond design similar to what they used for the GX40/BX70? Would be nice to see their own design language rather than the generic housing they used for S60 (which creaks quite a bit after extended use).

based on sound, the E12 is a bit harsh on the treble. not sibilant, but like listening to lower bitrate mp3s or FM radio kind of treble. also the bass is boomy and uncontrolled. add the point that my unit's left earpiece is dead due to corrupted battery after a few days. i had high hopes for the E12 because of the X12, but turned out disappointed.

still love the X12 though

i have found some chifi TWS that have ambient sound while browsing, I'll post it here later, just need to re-find it
 
May 8, 2019 at 3:49 AM Post #6,699 of 70,805
I do recall deciding between the S60 and another Type-C charging TWS which was the Jabees Firefly, which did have ambient sound. The audio quality wasn't as good as S60 as while they are BT 5.0 they don't support AAC or other HQ codecs.

Samsung put out a new update recently which seems to improve connectivity of my S60. It still cuts out every now and then but typically around 15 minutes or so rather than 5-6 minutes.
 
May 8, 2019 at 5:10 AM Post #6,700 of 70,805
Ok, signing off, please someone ping me when some QC512x TWEs with ANC surface !
 
May 8, 2019 at 9:42 AM Post #6,701 of 70,805
Generally No. Mw07 comes closest. I do think it outperforms many Wired headsets. I prefer them to 1more triple for example.

How about your MTW?
 
May 8, 2019 at 9:57 AM Post #6,703 of 70,805
Hard to describe. The mw07 sound special. The mtw sound very good. They may even be technically “better” than mw07 in terms of clarity and detail. They definitely can hang with some affordable wired headphones.

Thanks. What's your musical tastes? I'm mostly a rock / hard rock / little bit of metal sort of guy. Loved the K10U I had, but couldn't justify holding on to them for the amount of use they got. Do miss them though. I don't mind my Bose Soundsport Wireless (bought to use on mountain bike) and my Sony 1000XM3s, but K10U were close to perfect.
 
May 8, 2019 at 9:59 AM Post #6,704 of 70,805
I'm kinda hoping the new Powerbeats Pro turn out to be very un-Beats and sound good. The convenience factor of those with an iPhone / iPad / Apple Watch is pretty stellar. But they need to sound good.
 
May 8, 2019 at 10:02 AM Post #6,705 of 70,805
Thanks. What's your musical tastes? I'm mostly a rock / hard rock / little bit of metal sort of guy. Loved the K10U I had, but couldn't justify holding on to them for the amount of use they got. Do miss them though. I don't mind my Bose Soundsport Wireless (bought to use on mountain bike) and my Sony 1000XM3s, but K10U were close to perfect.
Rock, alt rock, classic rock. I also enjoy the Bose sound signature. I would say the mw07 May fit you best. But the mtw is certainly a good option.
 

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