Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[Juturna]

Most annoying part about my Soundcore L3P's is the that one earbud doesn't always want to charge, so often I think they're going to be fully charged and then it turns out that the left one has like 10% battery while the right one is at 100%.

 

[tiagopinto]

Yes I did! I can actually buy them now in my country...


But its very annoying that people who can order directly from Beyer can get them for 209 EUR with the discount code along with 60 days return window.

Whilst I'll have to pay 258 EUR with no way to return them if the fit isn't for me.

Kinda lost interest...why dont Beyer just ship to all EU countries...So yeah, I don't really wanna support a company that charges me 258 EUR when people in Germany,France, Finland etc can get them for 209 EUR.

That’s what I asked the local rep. “Will you honor the 10% newsletter subscription discount and the brands own return window? Since the brands shipping policy is restraining some countries, those countries honor the brands conditions, right?” I’m waiting for their answer...

Otherwise, I’m with you. I’m not paying a premium over other countries’ clients.

 

[tiagopinto]

This still pisses me off, the money isn't really an issue, its the principle, just because I live in the "wrong" EU country I have to pay around 50€ extra without Beyers 60 day refund window. I wouldn't be as pissed if it wasn't for the fact that they offer shipping to countries like Finland, Slovenia, Ireland etc, I could have understood if Beyer only shipped to Austria/Swiz/Germany, but if they can ship to countries all over EU it doesn't make any sense.

Note that 229€ is the price with 20% VAT. My local distributor gave a quote for 235€ considering the VAT adjustment to 23%.

The possible sense I'm making of this is that all countries they ship to have Euro currency. How about getting a German shipping address and using a forwarder?

Thanks for your input. Although, wouldn’t this void your warranty and/or the possibility of returning them?

 

[Caipirina]

Fokus pro, hands down. I own both. My xm4 have been relegated to workout and sleep duty. I sleep with iems. Fokus pro are the xm4 on another level. Better bass, clearer mids, better treble detail without harshness. Enjoy both. I use spinfit tws tips on Fokus and Final type E on xm4

Wow! How can you sleep with the XM4? I have tried soooo many TWS for sleeping .. even the tiniest ones (comfobuds Z) have that problem that when I lay on them, they plug up the ear canal and I don't get any sound ...

After trying so many things, I ended up getting one of those MusiCozy sleep headbands (from warehouse at 11$) and those are fantastic (for the kind of music I am listening to at night, meditation / ambient bling bling stuff)

 

[subguy812]

One of the main reasons I keep mine. I use Final TWS tips on mine and love the fit and seal. Used them on the way to Hawaii and hardly heard a thing.

I wasn't aware that Final made a TWS tip?

 

[subguy812]

How many licks to the center of a tootsie pop?

I think the answer was three, at least as the owl did it

 

[EvilMegaDroid]

Fokus pro, hands down. I own both. My xm4 have been relegated to workout and sleep duty. I sleep with iems. Fokus pro are the xm4 on another level. Better bass, clearer mids, better treble detail without harshness. Enjoy both. I use spinfit tws tips on Fokus and Final type E on xm4

How are the fokus pro when it comes to running? Do they fall off.
I kinda like them and ready to buy them but would be a pain to workout with items if the fall off

 

[BooleanBones]

I think the answer was three, at least as the owl did it

Bingo, I never made it past three

 

[BooleanBones]

I wasn't aware that Final made a TWS tip?

They are hard to find and a bit pricey. I got mine from mtmtaudio in Hong Kong. They are a legit company.
https://www.mtmtaudio.com/products/...-for-true-wireless-bluetooth-earphone-2-pairs

 

[erockg]

They are hard to find and a bit pricey. I got mine from mtmtaudio in Hong Kong. They are a legit company.
https://www.mtmtaudio.com/products/...-for-true-wireless-bluetooth-earphone-2-pairs

Audio46 has them too: https://audio46.com/products/final-audio-true-wireless-silicon-type-e-eartips?variant=42282157572329

 

[BooleanBones]

Audio46 has them too: https://audio46.com/products/final-audio-true-wireless-silicon-type-e-eartips?variant=42282157572329

That is where I would get them for sure. Cheaper and in the US

 

[james444]

Thanks for your input. Although, wouldn’t this void your warranty and/or the possibility of returning them?

I've been using a German forwarding address for years (provided by LogoiX, however their service is limited to Austria). Never had any problem with warranty or returns.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

How did I miss this? Whoa.

They’re absolutely incredible.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Mine have the sticker on the lid, but the charging connections are different

Ya mine look like those. They drive everything I have well except the Euclids

 

[msr13]

Ok… my Noble Fokus Pros arrived today. After a very difficult (user error) time opening the box, a near impossible experience putting on the proper sized tips, and then another near impossible experience switching them again to Spin Fits, I’ll admit, I was losing faith.

But… once all set… they paired immediately. The sound was excellent!!! The app with the pre-programmed EQ was excellent. Fit and comfort were very good— with the Spin Fits. And so far there has been no connectivity issues. I was able to traverse the house without any drops.

One evening… one data point. But so far… Wow!!!

I made a couple of phone calls. I heard the folks on the other end very well. Almost landline-like. But while they could hear me clearly, it was obvious I was on a headset to them.

Did I mention the sound???? Not at all what I was expecting from TWs.

Anyway… just one night… but I am happy!