Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Jan 18, 2022 at 6:32 PM Post #41,896 of 45,699

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Just received my UTWS5s and hooked up my new Tripowin Lea’s. Had to crank the volume to - I kid you not - 100% to get them to anywhere near appreciable. I have never had to crank my phone to 100% volume for anything. Also, the Fiio app does not work with them for me… for now.
There is something wrong, you shouldn't pull the Leas past 50/100. Is absolute volume disableb and did you turn the sound all the way up on the adapters, sorry if that is a stupid question
 
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Darn kz zas are 70, I'm getting greedy and hoping for more $30- range iems, lol. How are the zas's? I'll prob get the az09 since they're so cheap, but that sucks they don't work with aria. Maybe I'll use the utws3's with aria and az09 with leas.

The leas sound great with my utws3's. I'll use them today traveling to see how they do. I usually have to crank everything with my timeless, but the leas are much more forgiving. I'll just reiterate that the leas are a f'ing steal at 26. I think I'm actually preferring them to my timeless for the tonality, and the insane technicality of the timeless is too much for me to want to use all the time.
However if you are looking at the $30 range there is quite a few nice sets. I think the Leas are looking to be the under $30 king, I have them ordered as well as the Fiio Jh3 for $39...so far great reviews... I'm looking forward to those
 
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The ZAS are fantastic man
Hahahaa ur killing me, I'll order the ZAS and prob C pin az09 later. Is everyone getting just the normal az09 and not the pro? Also, out of curiosity, do most 2 pin iem's work with the C pin? I asked this a few posts up, but I edited the post to ask it.

However if you are looking at the $30 range there is quite a few nice sets. I think the Leas are looking to be the under $30 king, I have them ordered as well as the Fiio Jh3 for $39...so far great reviews... I'm looking forward to those

I'm interested in how you like the jh3's.

I'm kind of in paralysis by analysis with the fh3 vs the eclipse. I'm worried I don't like crin's tuning because of the kz crn's. It reminds me of the tuning of the buds+ I don't like. At $150 I don't feel as willy nilly about just ordering on a crapshoot.

I think I'm understanding more what I like, this is my eq on linux which I'm loving with everything. I'm not sure what it means I like, if it's just I'm meh about bass, scooped mids, and boosted treble?

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Hahahaa ur killing me, I'll order the ZAS and prob C pin az09 later. Is everyone getting just the normal az09 and not the pro? Also, out of curiosity, do most 2 pin iem's work with the C pin? I asked this a few posts up, but I edited the post to ask it.



I'm interested in how you like the jh3's.

I'm kind of in paralysis by analysis with the fh3 vs the eclipse. I'm worried I don't like crin's tuning because of the kz crn's. It reminds me of the tuning of the buds+ I don't like. At $150 I don't feel as willy nilly about just ordering on a crapshoot.

I think I'm understanding more what I like, this is my eq on linux which I'm loving with everything. I'm not sure what it means I like, if it's just I'm meh about bass, scooped mids, and boosted treble?

The ZAS are very nice. The AZ09 Pro is what everyone has been talking about. Also, the FH3 are some of my favorite ever
 
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Hahahaa ur killing me, I'll order the ZAS and prob C pin az09 later. Is everyone getting just the normal az09 and not the pro? Also, out of curiosity, do most 2 pin iem's work with the C pin? I asked this a few posts up, but I edited the post to ask it.



I'm interested in how you like the jh3's.

I'm kind of in paralysis by analysis with the fh3 vs the eclipse. I'm worried I don't like crin's tuning because of the kz crn's. It reminds me of the tuning of the buds+ I don't like. At $150 I don't feel as willy nilly about just ordering on a crapshoot.

I think I'm understanding more what I like, this is my eq on linux which I'm loving with everything. I'm not sure what it means I like, if it's just I'm meh about bass, scooped mids, and boosted treble?

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Crinacle made the Fhe with boosted bass but says he did so in a way that the bass does not infringe on the Mids or anywhere else on the spectrum. For $129 the FH3 are so good man. I have had them for about a year and I always always go back to them. I have much more expensive iems but I just love the sound sig of the FH3. Anyways you may enjoy the ZAS, many do... I happen to love the bass and just the tonality. Honestly man there are so many iems that are bonkers good at every price point down to $10 bucks. Not kidding.
 
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Crinacle made the Fhe with boosted bass but says he did so in a way that the bass does not infringe on the Mids or anywhere else on the spectrum. For $129 the FH3 are so good man. I have had them for about a year and I always always go back to them. I have much more expensive iems but I just love the sound sig of the FH3. Anyways you may enjoy the ZAS, many do... I happen to love the bass and just the tonality. Honestly man there are so many iems that are bonkers good at every price point down to $10 bucks. Not kidding.
Have you tried the FHE with the boosted bass? If so, what are you thoughts in comparison to the original FH3? I'm finding the timeless while exceptional on technicalities is a little fatiguing and slightly bright for my taste on a few songs... looking for something warmer, relaxed, similar degree of bass and more musicality.
 
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Have you tried the FHE with the boosted bass? If so, what are you thoughts in comparison to the original FH3? I'm finding the timeless while exceptional on technicalities is a little fatiguing and slightly bright for my taste on a few songs... looking for something warmer, relaxed, similar degree of bass and more musicality.
What price point are you looking at? I have not tried the Fhe as I have not seen it on sale yet here in the States. My first question to you would be, what is your preferred sound signature (if you know). I saw you say warmer and more relaxed. If you are looking in that price point around $150-200 then I would say that the set I have been loving lately to a ridiculous degree is the TRI I3 Pro. It has a Dynamic Driver, a Planar (like the Timeless) and a BA. It is relaxed and warmer and the bass is awesome to me. Another I am currently loving is the Tanchjim Hana 2021...it is Harman tuned but with slightly more energy up top (non fatiguing) with tighter bass and just an awesome tonality... Really great. There is literally so many sets that could fit the bill. If you have a price you are looking at then we can tailor things down a bit.
 
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What price point are you looking at? I have not tried the Fhe as I have not seen it on sale yet here in the States. My first question to you would be, what is your preferred sound signature (if you know). I saw you say warmer and more relaxed. If you are looking in that price point around $150-200 then I would say that the set I have been loving lately to a ridiculous degree is the TRI I3 Pro. It has a Dynamic Driver, a Planar (like the Timeless) and a BA. It is relaxed and warmer and the bass is awesome to me. Another I am currently loving is the Tanchjim Hana 2021...it is Harman tuned but with slightly more energy up top (non fatiguing) with tighter bass and just an awesome tonality... Really great. There is literally so many sets that could fit the bill. If you have a price you are looking at then we can tailor things down a bit.
I'm willing to spend up to $250 USD and the one that I'm eyeing is the Legacy 5. But yes, the sound profile that I would enjoy is warmer, relaxed (non fatiguing) good sub-bass, emphasized mids/vocals with above average or better than good soundstage and imaging.
 
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I'm willing to spend up to $250 USD and the one that I'm eyeing is the Legacy 5. But yes, the sound profile that I would enjoy is warmer, relaxed (non fatiguing) good sub-bass, emphasized mids/vocals with above average or better than good soundstage and imaging.
I'd pass on the L5 and go with the Mangird Tea. I had the 5s last week and after watching/reading some reviews about the Mangrid, they just blow away the 5s. Using them with now with the AZ09 Pro and they ROCK. It's little more than you want to spend, but I think it's worth it.
 
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I'm willing to spend up to $250 USD and the one that I'm eyeing is the Legacy 5. But yes, the sound profile that I would enjoy is warmer, relaxed (non fatiguing) good sub-bass, emphasized mids/vocals with above average or better than good soundstage and imaging.
Fiio FH5, TRI I3 pro, fiio fd5 if you can find a sale, Kato, Hana 2021, Tanchjim Oxygen (big brother to Hana), final audio e5000 (harder to drive), ikko oh10. These are a start, there is a bunch more but I don't want to throw too many at you and of course what @erockg said...Mangird Tea if you can go higher. I'd check some reviews as all of these have plenty of reviews out there
 
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I'm willing to spend up to $250 USD and the one that I'm eyeing is the Legacy 5. But yes, the sound profile that I would enjoy is warmer, relaxed (non fatiguing) good sub-bass, emphasized mids/vocals with above average or better than good soundstage and imaging.
The sets I listed are $150- 280ish, there are good sets for less but these just happen to be in that price point
 
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Current Bluetooth standard is 256kbps.

Apple says next year their AirPods Pro 2 will be doing lossless.

So we’re inching closer, to truly great sound quality.

But wired is still clearly king.

I can’t wait to see a big APPLE logo staring at me right out of people’s ears, on a white stemless AirPodPro2, shaped like many of the current Bluetooth stuff from Sony/etc, which rest entirely just behind the pinna.
 
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After spending some more time with the Technics AZ60 I really, really like them!

After some more EQ-ing, the bass is now less bloated but still very present.
Vocals sound really good, the sound is overall just smooth and not fatiguing at all. Seems detailed enough.
Feel like they're better for pop and electronic music over guitar-based/heavy music, but tinkering with the EQ I think most people could find enjoyment out of these earbuds.
I still feel like I'm trying to find the "perfect" sound for me in earbuds and I haven't found it so far, but these come somewhat close.
Fit is superb though they make my ears produce more wet earwax (maybe TMI). I prefer a deep fit, but it seems like my ears don't. Will probably try to find a good set of more shallow-fitting earbuds for my next pair.
Call quality seems to be very good (especially for not being stem-style) even if it seems sensitive to wind.
ANC is great, but not excellent. As long as you're playing music at reasonable levels you're probably not going to be bothered, but I noticed that I could hear my bathroom faucet with these way more than some other buds that I have.
The touch-triggered pads on the buds are a bit too sensitive. I had the hood on my jacket up the other day because it was raining like crazy and it kept pausing and playing the music because the earbuds just slightly touched the fabric on the inside of the hood.

I wish I could find an earbud that had the bass capabilites of the Devialet Geminis with the mids of the Technics AZ60 and the highs of the... I don't know, Sennheiser MTW2's, maybe? Deep sub-bass rumble with at least a little bit of slam in the mid-bass (when the song requires it) with clear mids and some slight focus on vocals and clarity, with slightly more "crisp" highs.
 

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