Nov 10, 2020 at 4:37 AM Post #10,156 of 11,859
Which tips do you use in combination with E3000?

I use KZ starlines or spinfits. YMMV as we have different ear anatomies. What do u use? Would be interested in seeing alternative options!

A few friends of mine use the clear final E tips with it. They say it is brighter than the black Final E tips, but i haven't found any clear final E tips in my local shop so far.
 
Nov 10, 2020 at 4:45 AM Post #10,157 of 11,859
I use KZ starlines or spinfits. YMMV as we have different ear anatomies. What do u use? Would be interested in seeing alternative options!

I got E3000 few weeks ago and for now I tried them only with E tips (medium and small). I usually use medium tips with all other IEMs I have, but with E3000 I like how they go deep in ear with small tips. Something like Etymotic for poor people ;-)
 
Nov 10, 2020 at 11:12 AM Post #10,158 of 11,859
The E3000's treble is actually darkish, but it scales better with amping. It is a power hungry beast for sure. Burn in is a controversial subject haha, but I've used my Final E3000 for almost 100 hours and it still looks quite tame in the treble for me.

The Final E black tips that are provided in the E3000 are one of my favourite tips for taming treble, I actually use them with bright IEMs. But ironically, they make the darkish treble of the E3000 even darker. So I find something with wider bore tips (or some friends told me the clear Final E tips) can extend the treble better and give more sparkle if u are looking for more higher frequencies.
While the quantity is perfectly fine with me (wouldn't want anymore treble), I would like it to get just a tiny bit more refined, for me to consider them perfectly natural.

Actually, I think the stock tips are horrible for both the E500 and E3000. Because while they do lower the treble quantity, the actual quality gets very harsh and resonant. This is because the small bore opening, makes the sound resonate against that silicone before it gets to your ears, making the texture very harsh.

I use reversed Comply T-500 with them, as this gives me the most natural and smooth quality. In my opinion, having good treble quality and high treble emphasis, is way better than having low treble quality, and low treble emphasis.

Because one can tame high treble emphasis easily with some micropore tape or acoustic felt, but you can't get rid of bad treble quality. The Blon BL-03 is a good example. It has harsh treble/upper-mids quality, AND emphasized upper-mids/treble.

I can get the quantity down of the Blon to neutral levels, but the quality remains peaky/harsh. Even my $200 Aurisonics Rockets have this problem. The peaky treble texture just won't go away.

The Final E500, suffers less from this than both the expensive Aurisonics Rockets and BL-03, and the E3000 even less than the E500.
 
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Nov 11, 2020 at 11:43 AM Post #10,159 of 11,859
Nov 12, 2020 at 6:01 PM Post #10,160 of 11,859
The bass on the E3000 is heavy, but unlike the Blon BL-03, it has tightness to make it work.

This should be the real giant killer under $100 if you want a bass boosted neutral sound. It is more refined in texture than my $200 Aurisonics Rockets, which are regarded to be some of the most natural sounding IEMs at that price range.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 4:54 AM Post #10,162 of 11,859
I am currently using the e3000, and after seeing the Evangelion 2020 3D Version available in my local retailer, is currently torn in getting it. have anyone tried it yet? and can I have a comparison with the e3000s?

this are the IEMs i meant, not the TWS ones

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are these based on the e2000s? (guessing from the "2020" naming scheme)

Thanks!
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 8:24 AM Post #10,163 of 11,859
I am currently using the e3000, and after seeing the Evangelion 2020 3D Version available in my local retailer, is currently torn in getting it. have anyone tried it yet? and can I have a comparison with the e3000s?

this are the IEMs i meant, not the TWS ones

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are these based on the e2000s? (guessing from the "2020" naming scheme)

Thanks!
I got them, they are similar to the E1000 but warmer and has worse bass quality. Not recommended.

Here is my post on them: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/the-discovery-thread.586909/page-3401#post-15928703
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 10:39 AM Post #10,164 of 11,859
I am currently using the e3000, and after seeing the Evangelion 2020 3D Version available in my local retailer, is currently torn in getting it. have anyone tried it yet? and can I have a comparison with the e3000s?

this are the IEMs i meant, not the TWS ones

1605520445693.png

are these based on the e2000s? (guessing from the "2020" naming scheme)

Thanks!
Hmm, the E500 is also marked for 3D audio, and this looks like it. Granted, I think the E500 is the best purchase at that price I've made.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 10:42 AM Post #10,166 of 11,859
How do they compare to the E500?
My E500 has massive channel imbalance, cant compare them sorry. But I take the E1000 over both the E500/Evangelion.
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 11:11 AM Post #10,167 of 11,859
My E500 has massive channel imbalance, cant compare them sorry. But I take the E1000 over both the E500/Evangelion.
I see, that's too bad then, I really liked the EVAs 3.5mm jack design. If they are at least similar to the e1000s I'll probably get them. As the e1000s are in fact cheaper than the Evangelion version in my retailer.

How's the soundstage and imaging of the e500, and the e1000 to the e3000--as I already owned the e3000?

Since the e500s are marketed as a 3D/ VR/ASMR/IEM, they piqued my interest too haha
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 11:13 AM Post #10,168 of 11,859
I see, that's too bad then, I really liked the EVAs 3.5mm jack design. If they are at least similar to the e1000s I'll probably get them. As the e1000s are in fact cheaper than the Evangelion version in my retailer.

How's the soundstage and imaging of the e500, and the e1000 to the e3000--as I already owned the e3000?

Since the e500s are marketed as a 3D/ VR/ASMR/IEM, they piqued my interest too haha
Check my review on the E1000/E3000: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/final-audio-e1000.23550/reviews#item-review-23327
https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/final-audio-design-e3000.22426/reviews#item-review-23692
 
Nov 16, 2020 at 11:32 AM Post #10,169 of 11,859
I see, that's too bad then, I really liked the EVAs 3.5mm jack design. If they are at least similar to the e1000s I'll probably get them. As the e1000s are in fact cheaper than the Evangelion version in my retailer.

How's the soundstage and imaging of the e500, and the e1000 to the e3000--as I already owned the e3000?

Since the e500s are marketed as a 3D/ VR/ASMR/IEM, they piqued my interest too haha
E500 has worse separation than the E3000, but better imaging. E3000 has more bass, more detail retrieval and more forward male vocals. E3000 is also more refined in the uppermids and highs.

E500 is still extremely natural and more neutral than the E3000, but I highly recommend to put a piece of cut acoustic felt on the nozzle, this will smooth out the slight treble peak it can have sometimes.
 
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