Apr 25, 2020 at 7:41 PM Post #9,436 of 11,881
Apr 26, 2020 at 6:47 AM Post #9,442 of 11,881
I am seeing a lot of very interesting true wireless iems on the S’next store. They bear the mention “Tuned by Final” and retail under the ag brand name - is that Final’s own TWS department? Does anyone have experience with them?

There is a new one, the 04K, that seems mighty interesting.
 
Apr 26, 2020 at 8:20 AM Post #9,443 of 11,881
Looking for recommendations: I am interested in the B line from Final. I’ve tested the E2000 and E3000 before, they all sound too warm for me, but I have high hope for Final anyway! I’m thinking of getting either the B1 or B3, after seeing glowing review for them. 99% of my music is Japanese songs, with all type of genres (amazarashi, Wagakki Band, RADWIMPS, Aimer,...). I prefer a mid-centric iem, love hearing the vocal as well as the space between each instrument in a song, so soundstage is quite important to me. I‘m using the Audio Technica IM02, but sometimes the vocal sounds a bit thin in some records.
Based on what I described above, will the B1 or B3 suit me better?
Is there any store in Vienna where I can try both of these? Thank you very much!
 
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Apr 26, 2020 at 8:26 AM Post #9,444 of 11,881
Hi guys, which spinfit works best for e3k ?
To be honest with you, I could not find a single eartip model to work better than Final's E series on the Ex000 family.
May I ask why are you looking into Spinfits for the E3000 ?
 
Apr 26, 2020 at 8:52 AM Post #9,446 of 11,881






Erm..... any hype? :D
Any Evangelion fan here?

Details coming soon......
Oh yeah!

I need one with either of Mari Makanami’s color schemes. Also, what, no Rei Ayanami color schemes!? Blasphemy!
 

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Apr 26, 2020 at 9:02 AM Post #9,447 of 11,881
Looking for recommendations: I am interested in the B line from Final. I’ve tested the E2000 and E3000 before, they all sound too warm for me, but I have high hope for Final anyway! I’m thinking of getting either the B1 or B3, after seeing glowing review for them. 99% of my music is Japanese songs, with all type of genres (amazarashi, Wagakki Band, RADWIMPS, Aimer,...). I prefer a mid-centric iem, love hearing the vocal as well as the space between each instrument in a song, so soundstage is quite important to me. I‘m using the Audio Technica IM02, but sometimes the vocal sounds a bit thin in some records.
Based on what I described above, will the B1 or B3 suit me better?
Is there any store in Vienna where I can try both of these? Thank you very much!

Try dual flange eartips if you are looking to decrease warmth. In my experience, dual flange tips generally decrease the bass.
 
Apr 26, 2020 at 9:38 AM Post #9,448 of 11,881
Well, others IEMs that change to spinfit can improve overall sounds. Maybe spinfit in final e3k can improve the e3k sounds too.
I'm just curious.

For Final E-series Spinfit recommends CP500 iirc.
 
Apr 26, 2020 at 12:18 PM Post #9,449 of 11,881
I have tried a number of tips with the E-series IEMs, and finally reached the conclusion that the following three offered the best tonality and performance overall, albeit depending on the genre. They each add their own "flavor" to the default signature, and depending on music you can mix and match. They are, from left to right: Final E-type (stock), Final E-type Clear (red-stem version), Spinfit CP-500.

E-type stock: This provides the best seal and isolation and the color-coded stems are a boon. Due to the high level of seal (and noise isolation as a byproduct) this tip also provides the deepest bass and is absolutely perfect for EDM/Rap/Hip-hop or other bass heavy genres (e.g. 80's synthwave). They are also perfect for on-the-go/commute usage as the engine noise/crowd hum usually attenuates the bass frequencies, so these tips actually make the IEMs sound more balanced while being used in a noisy environment.

E-type clear: The clear type provides a moderate seal, and isolation isn't as good. This results in slightly lowered mid-bass impact and the overall bass is balanced and evened out with the lower-mid frequencies. The treble energy also comes through more easily and so you get this subtle yet noticeable boost in clarity. Ideal for Rock/Metal/Acoustic/Singer-songwriter genres.

Spinfit CP-500: Spinfit/Dunu (Dunu now owns Spinfit) especially made these tips for Final IEMs and they do fit really well. These have the lowest degree of seal and thus isolation is the poorest among the three. Bass frequencies take a hit as unlike the E-type clear that only tones down mid-bass, sub-bass impact is also hit with the CP-500. As a result, the IEMs often lack the dynamics required for many genres and can sound... boring. Ironically, they sound with live/concert hall tracks or recordings as the overall ambience is really well portrayed. Many live recordings also have boosted bass frequencies, which is further toned down here so you can focus on the other instruments.

I hope this gives a good idea as to what you can expect from the aftermarket tips while using E-series IEMs.

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Apr 26, 2020 at 12:24 PM Post #9,450 of 11,881
Looking for recommendations: I am interested in the B line from Final. I’ve tested the E2000 and E3000 before, they all sound too warm for me, but I have high hope for Final anyway! I’m thinking of getting either the B1 or B3, after seeing glowing review for them. 99% of my music is Japanese songs, with all type of genres (amazarashi, Wagakki Band, RADWIMPS, Aimer,...). I prefer a mid-centric iem, love hearing the vocal as well as the space between each instrument in a song, so soundstage is quite important to me. I‘m using the Audio Technica IM02, but sometimes the vocal sounds a bit thin in some records.
Based on what I described above, will the B1 or B3 suit me better?
Is there any store in Vienna where I can try both of these? Thank you very much!

If you do not need a lot of bass, the F7200 will serve you really well. They are incredibly detailed for a single BA earphone and with a deep-fit you'll get fantastic imaging and instrument separation. Even the lower-end F3100 has quite good instrument separation for the price. The vocal performance is phenomenal as well (basically the F-series on a whole has a specialty in vocal rendition).
 

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