[gLer]

It depends on the volume and the amount of bass in a track. I really feel the whole casing vibrating in my hands when it’s playing a bass heavy track.

I could be wrong but I think you might be feeling the W9+ vibrations. AFAIK BC vibrations are subsonic. Like I said, I could be completely wrong here. The only vibrations I'm feeling are in my face when the bass hits a certain way, I can almost feel it my chest, like real speakers. Again correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any other current IEM can do this. As good as bass might be with anything else, it's not EVO bass**.

**Subjective opinion, not based on a test sample of 200 IEMs.

 

[silent-circuit]

Don't convince me I need to spend 3x as much when I finally thought I'd be happy with a $1000 custom IEM... That's just cruel.

 

[gLer]

Don't convince me I need to spend 3x as much when I finally thought I'd be happy with a $1000 custom IEM... That's just cruel.

Welcome to Head-Fi...

 

[silent-circuit]

Welcome to Head-Fi...

Yeah yeah... I'm not exactly new. My wallet knows the sting.





Using this as an example (ideally a better quality version, I imagine you all have FLACs of like, everything, ever)... Where do you feel it? Is it really that different than a good quality "traditional" IEM? Comparisons to the Bravado MK2 are obviously most helpful. Thanks. (I guess.)

Honestly, even if I do go EVO, I'd have to get a loaner or something first... Just can't drop that kind of money blind.

 

[illawgical]

I could be wrong but I think you might be feeling the W9+ vibrations. AFAIK BC vibrations are subsonic. Like I said, I could be completely wrong here. The only vibrations I'm feeling are in my face when the bass hits a certain way, I can almost feel it my chest, like real speakers. Again correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any other current IEM can do this. As good as bass might be with anything else, it's not EVO bass**.

**Subjective opinion, not based on a test sample of 200 IEMs.

You’re probably right. This is my first set of Empire IEMs so I don’t have a reference for any other sets with the W9+.

 

[silent-circuit]

You’re probably right. This is my first set of Empire IEMs so I don’t have a reference for any other sets with the W9+.

W9+ is insane insane compared with every other IEM DD I've personally experienced. My first thought on getting the Bravado MK2 was "Weapon 9? It's just a tiny DD. Little full of themselves aren't they. Some hyperbole here." Yeah. No.

 

[gLer]

You’re probably right. This is my first set of Empire IEMs so I don’t have a reference for any other sets with the W9+.

I was basing my assumption off some reading up on BC I was doing for the EVO review, specifically this:

If I'm mistaken I'll correct it in the review. Will ask @Jack Vang to clarify how WX works more specifically.

But yeah, W9+ are not only beasts, they're also precision-tuned DDs with speaker-like enclosure excursion. They're not your run-of-the-mill DDs used in most other IEMs.

 

[Joshyy73]

I could be wrong but I think you might be feeling the W9+ vibrations. AFAIK BC vibrations are subsonic. Like I said, I could be completely wrong here. The only vibrations I'm feeling are in my face when the bass hits a certain way, I can almost feel it my chest, like real speakers. Again correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any other current IEM can do this. As good as bass might be with anything else, it's not EVO bass**.

**Subjective opinion, not based on a test sample of 200 IEMs.

Awesome! What type of ear tips are you using to achieve this effect? I've tried Final E, CP 155 and CP145 but still prefer Final E for its overall sound and bass impact from the WX.

 

[gLer]

Awesome! What type of ear tips are you using to achieve this effect? I've tried Final E, CP 155 and CP145 but still prefer Final E for its overall sound and bass impact from the WX.

Acoustune AET07. You'll want an eartip with a relatively firm core. I find Final E maximise bass but affect the other FRs (attenuate treble), whereas AET07 clarify mids/treble while retaining great bass impact and rumble.

 

[RSTA]

Technology department in Harrods is run by new owners for around 3 years. So it is actually quite decent now. Compared to what a joke state it used to be before for such a caliber department store.

I’ll have to make a trip down one of these days.

 

[AboveNBeyond]

I was basing my assumption off some reading up on BC I was doing for the EVO review, specifically this:



If I'm mistaken I'll correct it in the review. Will ask @Jack Vang to clarify how WX works more specifically.

But yeah, W9+ are not only beasts, they're also precision-tuned DDs with speaker-like enclosure excursion. They're not your run-of-the-mill DDs used in most other IEMs.

From what I remember Jack wrote here earlier that EVO's BC driver is designed to work through eartip and doesn't rely on ear-shell contact, compared to MEST.

Edit: here's the post https://www.head-fi.org/threads/emp...merly-earwerkz.786335/page-2170#post-16577611

 

[armstrj2]

I was basing my assumption off some reading up on BC I was doing for the EVO review, specifically this:



If I'm mistaken I'll correct it in the review. Will ask @Jack Vang to clarify how WX works more specifically.

But yeah, W9+ are not only beasts, they're also precision-tuned DDs with speaker-like enclosure excursion. They're not your run-of-the-mill DDs used in most other IEMs.

Odin doesn't vibrate at all and I have never felt vibrations like I do with Evo in any other iem (in hand or in ear) so I would have thought it was the BC driver causing this? When you hold Evo in your hand it also seems like the vibrations are coming from the region the BC driver is located.

I think it's what adds that sense of feeling the beats more than what any dynamic driver normally can, but I could be wrong too.

 

[subguy812]

I could be wrong but I think you might be feeling the W9+ vibrations. AFAIK BC vibrations are subsonic. Like I said, I could be completely wrong here. The only vibrations I'm feeling are in my face when the bass hits a certain way, I can almost feel it my chest, like real speakers. Again correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any other current IEM can do this. As good as bass might be with anything else, it's not EVO bass**.

**Subjective opinion, not based on a test sample of 200 IEMs.

This has been mentioned a couple of times. You can't feel the vibration in your ears but you can in your hand. By the way, love the ** footnote

 

[Ojisan]

Acoustune AET07. You'll want an eartip with a relatively firm core. I find Final E maximise bass but affect the other FRs (attenuate treble), whereas AET07 clarify mids/treble while retaining great bass impact and rumble.

+1 thanks to your suggestion, I just got an AET07 in last week and I really like it I hear the same effect.

 

[CL14715]

I think we need some Bravado MKII hype. These things are criminally underrated / under represented.