[Kitechaser]

A more useful question would be: Why would you want high-res music on a DAP? I think, myself included, we have it for the satisfaction of knowing we have the highest quality version of an album available. Mostly what having music in high-res affects is not the music itself, but the digital filter in the DAC. While not as much so as in the past, IMO the digital filters inside most off-the-shelf DACs are average at best, so using high-res files will bypass some of their effects. However the effect is subtle, often to a degree that is hard or impossible to discern, and I wouldn't take the time to care about it on a device that I would most likely use on public transport, where outside noise will have vastly more effect.

DSD sounds softer -- it is processed differently to PCM. The reason for this is that it has trouble reproducing transients in music. It also takes up an insane amount of space for the same music.

Are you seriously saying there is no real difference between High Res DSDs and Flacs, or that the difference is subtle? In my experience it is anything but that. Flacs sound grainy and disjointed when compared to a DSD, nothing subtle about it.

I swear some of things people say about cables, DAPs, and High Res files on head-fi has me scratching my head. If they can't spot the differences between each, it's hard for me to take any of their impressions seriously.

 

[twister6]

Curious how much playback time are you guys/gals squeezing out of DX220 with stock amp1ii? Already went through 5 full charge/discharge cycles, so battery is definitely calibrated. On a low gain from 2.5mm BAL at a regular listening volume with occasional screen on while playing a mix of flac/mp3 files I'm getting a solid 8hrs (in full Android).

 

[crazyeyes]

Keep us updated

I definitely will. I have a feeling the M11 will be heading to the for sale forums soon haha.

 

[fokta]

Curious how much playback time are you guys/gals squeezing out of DX220 with stock amp1ii? Already went through 5 full charge/discharge cycles, so battery is definitely calibrated. On a low gain from 2.5mm BAL at a regular listening volume with occasional screen on while playing a mix of flac/mp3 files I'm getting a solid 8hrs (in full Android).

Full Cycled Charge and discharged ? is it needed ?
I thought like smartphone, were full cycled only reduced the lifetime...

hmmm, using Pure Mango only for now (burn in process). AMP1ii, Mid Gain, 15% backlight, volume 7 - 14%, flac music only. Gets around 7 hours.
One thing I find, if you used Flac 24 bits or higher, the DAP get more warmer.... quite interesting and must get used to it... like Whig said, is there any portable cooling (wild idea) ?

 

[ExpatinJapan]

I just orded a DX220 off the iBasso site looking forward to getting to compare it with my FiiO M11. I also ordered amp8 too. From what I've read here should be an awesome player.

A/b under trade show conditions



I may have written some notes, but the DX220 with stock amp was the winner to my ears.

Campfire Audio Andromeda.

@scootermafia any further thoughts?

 

[ExpatinJapan]

This is my favorite digital Filter. But that is because my Amp8EX has the ability to retrieve and reproduce trebles details, tone, extensions under Extreme Fidelity

mine too

 

[singleended5863]

It seems like the DX220 with amp1ii don’t draw lots of power like the DX200TI and amp1Ti or amp4s.

 

[scootermafia]

Seems like people are preferring the AMP1MK2 for IEM use. With Stellia, my main daily listener, AMP8 is even better.

 

[crazyeyes]

Seems like people are preferring the AMP1MK2 for IEM use. With Stellia, my main daily listener, AMP8 is even better.

Yeah I am curious to see what I think about Amp1 MKII vs Amp8 with my it04 and HE1000. I wonder if Amp1 MKII will be a better match for the it04 and Amp8 for the HE1000. I guess I will see. I'm going to let them burn in for at least 50 hours before really giving a critical listen though as it seems burn in is definitely helpful from reading this thread and there are still changes at the 175-200 hour mark.

 

[scootermafia]

Yep we need a new thread rule, no reactions or reviewing sound until both the player and module are at 200 hours. First 50 hours I wasn’t sold on it. Now it’s at the head of the pack, well out in front.

 

[crazyeyes]

Yep we need a new thread rule, no reactions or reviewing sound until both the player and module are at 200 hours. First 50 hours I wasn’t sold on it. Now it’s at the head of the pack, well out in front.

That's great to hear.

 

[LeMoviedave]

I got impatient for it to become available on Amazon and orderede it straight from ibasso. I hope I don't regret this...

 

[Currawong]

So why the hell do people claim hi-res makes all the difference? To be honest even I've heard bigger differences than this conveys. Very strange response. If hi-res music doesn't matter and outside noise is such a factor an even more useful question appears to be why are we even buying $1100, let alone >$3000 daps? Like a bolt from a clear sky. No one should have the highest quality version of an album just because, it should be had because it makes a difference.

What "people"? What specific "bigger differences" have you heard? I've come across quite a few hi-res versions of albums that were different masters to the CD quality versions, and sounded quite different. I use the Chesky binaural albums, some of which i have in both CD quality and 192k and on the DAPs I have here they identical on all the DAPs I've tried in recent memory.

Are you seriously saying there is no real difference between High Res DSDs and Flacs, or that the difference is subtle? In my experience it is anything but that. Flacs sound grainy and disjointed when compared to a DSD, nothing subtle about it.

Nope, that's not what I said. Please read my post again. You might want to check your terminology too. "FLAC" is a method for compressing PCM, which, along with DSD are methods of digitally encoding music, so what you meant to say is "FLAC files" and "DSD files". Your "grainy and disjointed" experience is either from a: the recording itself, or b: the electronics. Because DSD-encoded music blunts transients, it softens the sound. So yes, as I said, it sounds different. Given the design of a lot of DACs and DAPs, it can sound more pleasant.

 

[alexzogh]

I got impatient for it to become available on Amazon and orderede it straight from ibasso. I hope I don't regret this...

I don’t think you will. I ordered their limited edition headphones directly, and they came really fast, with a nice personal note too.

 

[Raketen]

Hotter = better heat dissipation. Try to use a cooling heat sink for it

er... isn't that like calling a bucket of lard a better source of fat than a piece of fried chicken?
I think more accurate would be: hotter = less efficient heat dissipation, or more heat to dissipate