Doubt for a warm IEM for Jazz music under 200$
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:17 AM Post #16 of 39
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I saw them. And I read something about them. And I think that they would be very good. But the price is too high. To the 300$ I also have to add, I think, 70$ for the shipping in Italy, and the custom fees. I will keep them in mind for the future (I'm still a poor student 
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). Do you know something cheaper (a dynamic driven IEM at this point) that sounds similar?

 
The only other dynamic I can think of with that kind of sultry signature is the Vsonic GR06: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vsonic-GR06-/320964209663?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item4abaf52bff
 
Don't let the price fool you. It literally made go "Wow!" 
 
It's a midcentric iem that still has great bass and highs, and it's very refined for it's price range. I almost guarantee you'll like them.
 
Here's joker's review of them
 
 
 
 
(2C51) VSonic GR06


Reviewed Apr 2012

Details: VSonic’s mid-range dynamic monitor
Current Price: $63 from lendmeurears.com (MSRP: $63)
Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 24Ω | Sens: 108 dB | Freq: 10-20k Hz | Cable: 4.3' L-plug
Nozzle Size: 3.5mm | Preferred tips: Stock single-flanges, bi-flanges
Wear Style: Over-the-ear

Accessories (4/5) - Single-flange (3 sizes), hybrid-style (7 sizes), foam-stuffed hybrid (3 sizes), and bi-flange silicone tips, foam tips, over-the-ear cable guides and padded spring-clasp carrying pouch
Build Quality (4/5) - Designed for over-the-ear wear, the GR06 features adjustable-angle metal nozzles coupled and ergonomically-shaped housings. The cable is sturdy and smooth but can be somewhat resistant to staying behind one’s ears without the included guides. Lack of a sliding cable cinch does not help
Isolation (4/5) – Despite the ergonomic form factor the GR06 isolates rather well with the right tips
Microphonics (4.5/5) - Cable noise is very low as the GR06 can only be worn in the over-the-ear configuration. Although both shirt clip and cable cinch are missing from the accessory pack, the ear guides can be used to fix the cord in place
Comfort (4.5/5) - The GR06 works very well for prolonged listening - the angle of the nozzle is adjustable in every direction by ~40º due to a unique swivel mechanism and the sleek, lightweight housings are even smaller than those of the GR07

Sound (8.1/10) – While the higher-end GR07 model presents itself as a dynamic-driver take on a professional monitor, the GR06 offers a more consumer-friendly signature while showcasing just how far the sound quality of IEMs in the sub-$100 range has come in the past couple of years.

The bass of the GR06 is impactful and well-rounded. Compared to the GR07, the GR06 has less bass depth and more emphasis on the mid-bass region, resulting in a fuller, softer note presentation and warmer tone. In fact, the GR06 is more reminiscent of the Yamaha EPH-100 through the bass and midrange, albeit not as clear, hard-hitting, or resolving. It is not as tight or quick as the GR07 but competes extremely well in its price range, making solid mid-level sets such as the Spider Realvoice and MEElec CC51 sound boomy and bloated. The pricier HiSound Crystal, on the other hand, is a touch cleaner and quicker at the expense of slightly dryer sound.

The midrange of the GR06 is smooth, warm, and forward. The mids sound clean and have decent detail but are limited by the same slightly soft note presentation as the bass. As a result, the GR06 doesn’t sound quite as crisp, clean, and transparent as the GR07 or – to a lesser extent - the HiFiMan RE-ZERO or HiSound Crystal, but competes very well with pretty much everything else in its price bracket. The MEElec CC51 and Soundmagic E10 both sound mid-recessed in comparison while the Spider Realvoice and Brainwavz M2 lack detail and resolution. The pricier Sennheiser IE6 also sounds less refined than the GR06, with an edgier note presentation but no gain in clarity or detail.

At the top, the GR06 is clean and detailed but comes across a bit less aggressive than the GR07, which sounds hotter and has more sparkle. While the GR06 is generally smoother, it’s still not quite as smooth as a Sunrise Xcape IE or HiFiMan RE-ZERO. Like the GR07, the lower-end model has a slight tendency to point out sibilance and good – but not class-leading - extension. There are competing sets that sound a little crisper and more resolving – the RE-ZERO and HiSound Crystal, for example - but none of them get far ahead of the cheaper and smoother-sounding GR06.

The presentation of the GR06 is perhaps its most impressive aspect – soundstage size is above average and retains good instrument separation. The GR06 really makes similarly-priced sets such as the Brainwavz M2, MEElec A151, and even HiSound Crystal sound small and intimate. The presentation is more on-par with the far more expensive Sennheiser IE6 and IE7. Some nitpicks - there is decent air to the presentation but the more forward-sounding GR06 doesn’t have the sheer expanse of the GR07. Like the GR07, it also doesn’t have the best soundstage depth or the most 3-dimensional sonic image and the dynamics could be better. For the price, however, none of these should elicit any complaints.

Value (10/10) – The VSonic GR06 does to the sub-$100 market what last year’s release of the GR07 did to top-tier earphones, embarrassing quite a few of its competitors by combining a comfortable over-the-ear form factor, great build quality, and excellent sound at an unreasonably low price point. While some nitpicks that do make their way into its evaluation, most of them are normally reserved for upper-tier products, itself a compliment to the GR06. This is yet another VSonic product punching well above its weight.

Pros: Well-built and well-designed; warm, spacious, slightly mid-forward sound
Cons: No cable cinch

 
 
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:21 AM Post #17 of 39
The only other dynamic I can think of with that kind of sultry signature is the Vsonic GR06: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vsonic-GR06-/320964209663?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item4abaf52bff

Don't let the price fool you. It literally made go "Wow!" 

It's a midcentric iem that still has great bass and highs, and it's very refined for it's price range. I almost guarantee you'll like them.

Here's joker's review of them


 


(2C51) VSonic GR06


Reviewed Apr 2012


Details: VSonic’s mid-range dynamic monitor

Current Price: $63 from lendmeurears.com (MSRP: $63)

Specs: Driver: Dynamic | Imp: 24Ω | Sens: 108 dB | Freq: 10-20k Hz | Cable: 4.3' L-plug

Nozzle Size: 3.5mm | Preferred tips: Stock single-flanges, bi-flanges

Wear Style: Over-the-ear


Accessories (4/5) - Single-flange (3 sizes), hybrid-style (7 sizes), foam-stuffed hybrid (3 sizes), and bi-flange silicone tips, foam tips, over-the-ear cable guides and padded spring-clasp carrying pouch

Build Quality (4/5) - Designed for over-the-ear wear, the GR06 features adjustable-angle metal nozzles coupled and ergonomically-shaped housings. The cable is sturdy and smooth but can be somewhat resistant to staying behind one’s ears without the included guides. Lack of a sliding cable cinch does not help

Isolation (4/5) – Despite the ergonomic form factor the GR06 isolates rather well with the right tips

Microphonics (4.5/5) - Cable noise is very low as the GR06 can only be worn in the over-the-ear configuration. Although both shirt clip and cable cinch are missing from the accessory pack, the ear guides can be used to fix the cord in place

Comfort (4.5/5) - The GR06 works very well for prolonged listening - the angle of the nozzle is adjustable in every direction by ~40º due to a unique swivel mechanism and the sleek, lightweight housings are even smaller than those of the GR07


Sound (8.1/10) – While the higher-end GR07 model presents itself as a dynamic-driver take on a professional monitor, the GR06 offers a more consumer-friendly signature while showcasing just how far the sound quality of IEMs in the sub-$100 range has come in the past couple of years.


The bass of the GR06 is impactful and well-rounded. Compared to the GR07, the GR06 has less bass depth and more emphasis on the mid-bass region, resulting in a fuller, softer note presentation and warmer tone. In fact, the GR06 is more reminiscent of the Yamaha EPH-100 through the bass and midrange, albeit not as clear, hard-hitting, or resolving. It is not as tight or quick as the GR07 but competes extremely well in its price range, making solid mid-level sets such as the Spider Realvoice and MEElec CC51 sound boomy and bloated. The pricier HiSound Crystal, on the other hand, is a touch cleaner and quicker at the expense of slightly dryer sound.


The midrange of the GR06 is smooth, warm, and forward. The mids sound clean and have decent detail but are limited by the same slightly soft note presentation as the bass. As a result, the GR06 doesn’t sound quite as crisp, clean, and transparent as the GR07 or – to a lesser extent - the HiFiMan RE-ZERO or HiSound Crystal, but competes very well with pretty much everything else in its price bracket. The MEElec CC51 and Soundmagic E10 both sound mid-recessed in comparison while the Spider Realvoice and Brainwavz M2 lack detail and resolution. The pricier Sennheiser IE6 also sounds less refined than the GR06, with an edgier note presentation but no gain in clarity or detail.


At the top, the GR06 is clean and detailed but comes across a bit less aggressive than the GR07, which sounds hotter and has more sparkle. While the GR06 is generally smoother, it’s still not quite as smooth as a Sunrise Xcape IE or HiFiMan RE-ZERO. Like the GR07, the lower-end model has a slight tendency to point out sibilance and good – but not class-leading - extension. There are competing sets that sound a little crisper and more resolving – the RE-ZERO and HiSound Crystal, for example - but none of them get far ahead of the cheaper and smoother-sounding GR06.


The presentation of the GR06 is perhaps its most impressive aspect – soundstage size is above average and retains good instrument separation. The GR06 really makes similarly-priced sets such as the Brainwavz M2, MEElec A151, and even HiSound Crystal sound small and intimate. The presentation is more on-par with the far more expensive Sennheiser IE6 and IE7. Some nitpicks - there is decent air to the presentation but the more forward-sounding GR06 doesn’t have the sheer expanse of the GR07. Like the GR07, it also doesn’t have the best soundstage depth or the most 3-dimensional sonic image and the dynamics could be better. For the price, however, none of these should elicit any complaints.


Value (10/10) – The VSonic GR06 does to the sub-$100 market what last year’s release of the GR07 did to top-tier earphones, embarrassing quite a few of its competitors by combining a comfortable over-the-ear form factor, great build quality, and excellent sound at an unreasonably low price point. While some nitpicks that do make their way into its evaluation, most of them are normally reserved for upper-tier products, itself a compliment to the GR06. This is yet another VSonic product punching well above its weight.

Pros: Well-built and well-designed; warm, spacious, slightly mid-forward sound

Cons: No cable cinch



 


How bout the 50 dollar Etymotic MC5 eke?

Have you heard them?

Thanks, Jim
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:40 AM Post #19 of 39
If they sound anything like the other etymotics I've heard, then "warm iem for jazz music" does not apply to them.


So I guess that means you haven't heard them...

No need in discussing the NRB Mod with you then.

Thanks for your honesty.

Jim
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 11:58 AM Post #21 of 39
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Thank you Eke, I'll keep them in mind. I'm waiting for the answer on the HF5, BA200, GR07 and PFE 11x, and maybe something on the Yamaha's, and then I'll make my purchase

 
I currently own the GR07, have owned the EPH-100, and have heard the HF5.
 
The EPH sounds good, but the treble sounds kind of funky/clunky. It's something you have to hear to understand. The HF5 also sounds great, but lacks the bass and midrange warmth needed to really portray jazz. The GR07 is my favorite, but it could possibly lack the surround sound feel that you may want.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:02 PM Post #22 of 39
Wow! Thank you for the answer. So I have to buy the GR06. Biggest problem is the delivery in Italy. Since they don't ship with an express courier, it will take 3 months (because the package has to pass through the italian post service, that is notoriously very very bad). I'm sorry to bother you with all these problems, but that's my complicated situation, and I have to get out of that with an IEM that I can actually buy (in reasonable time). 
  In the last post I forgot to mention the RE262. What do you think about them? (If you know the of course)
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:11 PM Post #23 of 39
Jazz is basically all I listen to nowadays.  I've been through a few IEMs and so far the best of them all for Jazz music has been the GR07. 
 
Eke likes to say that nothing does drums like the GR07.  Well, I've found that nothing does the upright bass like the GR07...and they do the drums quite well. 
 
Eke, I still think that nothing does cymbals like the TF10, but heck, there is more to music than just a bunch of cymbals.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:27 PM Post #24 of 39
Just buy some GR07s from eBay, straight out of singapore.
 
I have the GR06, its very good for the price, on the warm side sonically. And its really cheap!
 
GR07 is more balanced though, and $!00 more. 
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:32 PM Post #25 of 39
Very nice elvergun. I've just checked if they are available. Both amazon.com and amazon.co.uk have them, but they can't ship in Italy (because they aren't sold directly by amazon).
On Ebay, only deliveries from Hong Kong, and as I said, it  will take 3 month, with a high probability that they lose the package. So the VSonic are indeed out of reach from here. I'm really sorry.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:35 PM Post #26 of 39
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Just buy some GR07s from eBay, straight out of singapore.
 
I have the GR06, its very good for the price, on the warm side sonically. And its really cheap!
 
GR07 is more balanced though, and $!00 more. 

 as I said, from Singapore the delivery to the USA is fast (about 2 weeks) and guaranteed. Instead, the delivery to Italy is made through a different postal service, that will take months (if something will ever arrive!).
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:41 PM Post #27 of 39
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 as I said, from Singapore the delivery to the USA is fast (about 2 weeks) and guaranteed. Instead, the delivery to Italy is made through a different postal service, that will take months (if something will ever arrive!).

 
You could ask the seller to use EMS. It would take 7-10 days max.
 
elvergun, the tf10 cymbals just sound a little too sparkly for me to consider them natural. The crash starts in the mids, then extends up to the treble. The TF10's mids are a little wonky, and the treble too sparkly.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 12:43 PM Post #28 of 39
I think the RE262 would sound great for jazz and the GR07 might also work.
 
And there's good old Jim with the Ety recommendation, you could be asking for a detailed bass heavy IEM with a large soundstage and Jim would tell you to get the ER-4 because he saw the word "detailed" in there.
 
I know I recommend the R-50 and now the e-Q5 a lot but I try to throw in others that I've heard that might fit the bill, but I do love your dedication.
 
Sep 9, 2012 at 1:02 PM Post #29 of 39
Mine took 10 days to get to the UK. Had a shipping number the day after the order was made.
 
Lendmeurears is pretty well regarded as a seller.
 
A said above, the GR06 is very good, the GR07 is better.
 
Your call though.
 

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