DIY Earbuds

May 9, 2025 at 6:59 AM Post #5,086 of 5,174
The measurements will be the same, the measurement mic doesn't care about the position, it just "sees" one sound field.
Well, I ordered this IEC711 thingy with soft pinna. I believe the measurements would be different based on the position in this case.
 

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May 9, 2025 at 8:35 AM Post #5,087 of 5,174
Well, I ordered this IEC711 thingy with soft pinna. I believe the measurements would be different based on the position in this case.
That is the old soft pinna, there's an improved soft pinna available, but it only works with an IEC711 coupler. Edit: Maybe will work with a small mic inserted in the backside of ear canal, but I wouldn't trust doing that for any reliable measurements.
See my post in the Round-Ups thread.
 
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May 9, 2025 at 8:48 AM Post #5,088 of 5,174
I read about the differencies and it looks like the softness of the pinna is more important measuring headphones and not su much for earbuds and IEM. I also read, that measurements with the new pinna had a strange bump in some higher frequencies (5-6K region if I remember this correctly), so I decided to stick to the older one.
 
May 9, 2025 at 10:33 AM Post #5,089 of 5,174
@tOMZY, after thinking more about a shell that has venting in different positions, the one shell that I know of that has this capability is the shell used for my Artiste Nightingale buds. It has a vent system around the entire circumference of the shell and would be very easy to block vents with putty (blu tack or other putty) to experiment with a single shell and move the venting around to different positions to see how this affects both tuning and sound. Looks like you have a fun homework assignment now... please share your discoveries.
 
May 11, 2025 at 2:21 AM Post #5,091 of 5,174
It has a vent system around the entire circumference of the shell
Is that the reason many say the Artiste Nightingale has very spacious presentation?
 
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May 11, 2025 at 7:59 AM Post #5,092 of 5,174
Build name ∶ Clear Magic

The dp100 shell makes for a good fit, and the use of donut foam allows for a
V-shape's sound signature of clear treble with no sting and deeper bass than the Yincrow X6 for a wider soundstage

Shell ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oo5jaG3
Driver ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDSXIkb 19-21 red dot clear version
(Cut the thinnest horseshoe-shaped black tuning foam in half and stick it on the driver)
Cable ∶ appropriate silver-plated copper wire

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May 11, 2025 at 8:21 AM Post #5,093 of 5,174
Build name ∶ Clear Magic

The dp100 shell makes for a good fit, and the use of donut foam allows for a
V-shape's sound signature of clear treble with no sting and deeper bass than the Yincrow X6 for a wider soundstage

Shell ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oo5jaG3
Driver ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDSXIkb 19-21 red dot clear version
(Cut the thinnest horseshoe-shaped black tuning foam in half and stick it on the driver)
Cable ∶ appropriate silver-plated copper wire

1000188826.jpg
Thanks for sharing this! Is it ok if I add to my earbuds resource page? It's linked in my signature
 
May 11, 2025 at 9:22 AM Post #5,095 of 5,174
Is that the reason many say the Artiste Nightingale has very spacious presentation?
I'm sorry I can't give you the full reasoning as I'm not an acoustics engineer. All I can say is that the combination of the specific driver, shell, tuning and cable work harmoniously together to bring together the final sound. There are other earbuds that also have a spacious presentation (sound stage) which don't use a shell with such open venting. One example of such an earbud would be Moondrop's Chaconne.

14.8mm 32 ohm TI
A fair driver who does his job well. Good all-rounder
Drivers
https://a.aliexpress.com/_ExCXmOa
Shells
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EjHdqMQ
Wires
https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ez6enM2
PK32 TI.jpg
Excellent, thanks for the share!

Build name ∶ Clear Magic

The dp100 shell makes for a good fit, and the use of donut foam allows for a
V-shape's sound signature of clear treble with no sting and deeper bass than the Yincrow X6 for a wider soundstage

Shell ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oo5jaG3
Driver ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDSXIkb 19-21 red dot clear version
(Cut the thinnest horseshoe-shaped black tuning foam in half and stick it on the driver)
Cable ∶ appropriate silver-plated copper wire

1000188826.jpg
On a roll... another nice build, Thanks for the share!
 
May 11, 2025 at 10:42 AM Post #5,096 of 5,174
Build name ∶ Clear Magic

The dp100 shell makes for a good fit, and the use of donut foam allows for a
V-shape's sound signature of clear treble with no sting and deeper bass than the Yincrow X6 for a wider soundstage

Shell ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oo5jaG3
Driver ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDSXIkb 19-21 red dot clear version
(Cut the thinnest horseshoe-shaped black tuning foam in half and stick it on the driver)
Cable ∶ appropriate silver-plated copper wire

Just a little clarification. This is the 32 TI comp, known as a true bass cannon.
For this shell I'm waiting for the MX760 foster drivers. Let's see what comes out...
It's always a pleasure to see your builds
Ps: I'll be back one of these days with a cheap 14.8mm build with great sound
 
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May 11, 2025 at 3:50 PM Post #5,097 of 5,174
Build name ∶ Clear Magic

The dp100 shell makes for a good fit, and the use of donut foam allows for a
V-shape's sound signature of clear treble with no sting and deeper bass than the Yincrow X6 for a wider soundstage

Shell ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oo5jaG3
Driver ∶ https://a.aliexpress.com/_oDSXIkb 19-21 red dot clear version
(Cut the thinnest horseshoe-shaped black tuning foam in half and stick it on the driver)
Cable ∶ appropriate silver-plated copper wire

1000188826.jpg
Putting aside the "clear," is this the same driver used in the Destiny? And if yes to that question, is the clear just for aesthetic reasons or for sound reasons?

(I would just check the link myself if I lived in an advanced country with access to such things...)

And thank you, @jogawag, for posting this!
 
May 11, 2025 at 4:29 PM Post #5,098 of 5,174
Putting aside the "clear," is this the same driver used in the Destiny? And if yes to that question, is the clear just for aesthetic reasons or for sound reasons?

(I would just check the link myself if I lived in an advanced country with access to such things...)

And thank you, @jogawag, for posting this!
The Clear Magic has a different driver and shell to the Destiny, but the tuning method was used as a reference.
The sound is more dynamic than Destiny.
 
May 11, 2025 at 6:26 PM Post #5,099 of 5,174
Putting aside the "clear," is this the same driver used in the Destiny? And if yes to that question, is the clear just for aesthetic reasons or for sound reasons?

(I would just check the link myself if I lived in an advanced country with access to such things...)
Checkout https://www.vpngate.net/en/
It's a list of public vpn relay servers where you can find and use, but please do not abuse open vpn servers. I managed to connect to a Japanese VPN server and then was able to browse AE successfully, although the language was in Japanese. I have a translation plug-in in my browser, so was able to highlight the text and translate it to English. I didn't see any Canadian or UK servers in their listing, which would have eliminated having to use a translator. It's not perfect, but it's better than nothing and it's free.

The Clear Magic has a different driver and shell to the Destiny, but the tuning method was used as a reference.
The sound is more dynamic than Destiny.
Here's the driver information, it's a look-a-like to the 19Hz to 21KHz red dot driver, but this driver is actually spec'd for 20-20KHz.

DIY-Flat Earphone Speaker Unit, 15.4mm, Upgraded Composite Titanium Diaphragm Driver, mx500 DIY

Parameter:
Resistance: 32 ohms
Rated power: 4MW
Sensitivity: 100 ± 3db
Frequency range: 20-20KHz
High-level flat earphone drivers, low frequencies are primarily suitable for balanced frequencies.

The package includes:
Speaker unit, 2 pcs
 
May 12, 2025 at 2:34 AM Post #5,100 of 5,174
@jeejack ,@jogawag :
I added drivers and shells to your builds to my Aliexpress wishlist.
What cables are you guys using?
JJ, do you use the 2strand version of the cable? If yes, how do you "drill" them together for the lower part, and where do you order chin sliders, splitters and plugs?
I found a shop, where I could order these, but honestly I find it expensive and it seems to be more suited for thicker IEM cables, wheras my preference is thinner cables with earbuds... 😊
 

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