DIY Cable Questions and Comments Thread

[Ryukote]

Thanks man for the circular 4 pin connectors suggestion these would work well for me too. Very nice alternative instead of using a set of mini 4 pin xlr set of male and female w/c looks ugly. The cable btw is from https://www.transparentcable.com/collections/analog-audio-headphone-cables

$1800

 

[3ggerhappy]

$1800

I know haha, the coupler is a novel idea though. Thats why im asking for alternatives.

 

[Ryukote]

Something like this should be ok but there should be 4 pins, not 3. It does look decent (for my taste better than YC-8) and it doesn't seem heavy.

 

[doctorjuggles]

I think maybe finding a version of the Kobiconn connectors that Ray Samuels used but straight instead of right-angled might work. Not sure if anything like that is available, but here's a starting point that might help
http://www.diyaudioblog.com/2011/12/kobiconn-connector-for-balanced.html

 

[3ggerhappy]

Thanks for the suggestions guys, these could work for me: https://www.amazon.com/Junction-Underground-Waterproof-Electrical-Connector/dp/B07PQDT4B8. 4 pin and accepts up to 12mm wire, though plastic its lightweight and still looks good.

Edit- sorry it should be like this one, one posted above is not like a snap on connector(the wires are screwed in a singular terminal). https://www.aliexpress.com/i/33035240376.html

 

[Ryukote]

It looks like a metal to me. Even tho, I don't think it is heavy. And you can cerakote it too look nicer.

 

[TrollDragon]

Great, thanks! This is my first DIY attempt so I appreciate the feedback.

Initially I thought I'd need to just recable the 6-pin connector to change these from unbalanced to balanced. However, it appears that the cable between each set of cups has a shielded ground instead of separate wires.

1. Can I use the existing shield as a wire in a balanced cable (i.e. use the shield for L- & R-) or would I need to recable this as well?
2. Similiar question for the cups themselves, do I need to open up each side to check to make sure there are dedicated wires (instead of a ground wire) for L- & R-?

Here are some images, an existing (unbalanced) wiring diagram from Beyer, and a sketch of the new 6-pin balanced connection for reference.

You would have to see if they have the shield wires tied together in the cup with the 6 pin socket, which I assume that they do. It's just a matter of moving that (headband wire) shield wire to it's own pin on the 6 pin socket. Then wire up your 6 pin plug for balanced accordingly.

So many option with that 6 pin plug, you could pick up a second cable and wire it for SE so you wouldn't have to use a Balanced to SE adapter per se.

My T50RP are wired with dual 4 pin tinyXLRs, I use them on all my headphones. The left socket is wired so I can plug in a single sided cable for portable use if I don't want to run the long dual sided cable with an adapter.

 

[TrollDragon]

Thanks for the suggestions guys, these could work for me: https://www.amazon.com/Junction-Underground-Waterproof-Electrical-Connector/dp/B07PQDT4B8. 4 pin and accepts up to 12mm wire, though plastic its lightweight and still looks good.

Edit- sorry it should be like this one, one posted above is not like a snap on connector(the wires are screwed in a singular terminal). https://www.aliexpress.com/i/33035240376.html

Those are nasty looking and made for AC mains coupling.

I'd look into the LEMO Redel line, they come in 4 to 22 connections and would be a better choice IMHO.
https://www.lemo.com/en/products/plastic-connector/redel-sp

 

[Ryukote]

Not bad, but I have never ever figured out how to buy on their site

 

[TrollDragon]

Not bad, but I have never ever figured out how to buy on their site

I don't think they sell to end users, you would have to get them from Mouser, Digikey, Alpine etc.

 

[Ryukote]

I think I will go with a next combo for a balanced cable for HD600. I have Mogami Neglex 2534 cable that I will connect to XLR mini on one side and LEMO on the other side. Diameters should be just fine. On the other side of LEMO, I intend to use 2 Mogami 2901-00 Lavalier cable (it doesn't says it is balanced cable, I would like someone to confirm that) which will go to HD600 connectors.

 

[3ggerhappy]

Those are nasty looking and made for AC mains coupling.

I'd look into the LEMO Redel line, they come in 4 to 22 connections and would be a better choice IMHO.
https://www.lemo.com/en/products/plastic-connector/redel-sp

Yeah this is well and good also except for the cable diameter maxed at 7.5mm for all variants I need at least 8mm(I will be using a pair(4mm each) of van den hul d501 silver hybrid). Maybe I could squeeze it out but could not find one selling the 4 pin 7.5mm variant.

 

[TrollDragon]

Yeah this is well and good also except for the cable diameter maxed at 7.5mm for all variants I need at least 8mm(I will be using a pair(4mm each) of van den hul d501 silver hybrid). Maybe I could squeeze it out but could not find one selling the 4 pin 7.5mm variant.

Was just a thought. The manufacturers sites are full of great products, but impossible to find someone who actually sells them. Good luck on your search though.

 

[Carm86]

I hate YC-8. I am cable maker for keyboards and I pray that no one will ask for YC-8 connector. And YC-8 have too small hole for balanced 4 wired cable.
I would need to find something similar to YC-8 (maybe LEMO) that has big enough hole.

What makes you hate it? Was fine for me, and I'm using it in a balance configuration too as you can see above.

I have some other connectors on the way that I'm going to try out that has a larger opening, but the YC8 seems fine to me so far.

 

[Carm86]

Was just a thought. The manufacturers sites are full of great products, but impossible to find someone who actually sells them. Good luck on your search though.

Oof found some of those lemo connectors except with a 18 week lead time...lol