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Dear Head-Fi Help me Kill my Wallet

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by retrias, Oct 31, 2012.
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  1. Retrias
    Dear head fi , I am pretty new here , just getting into the better part of the audio world , so far I have a beyer dt 1350, and a fiio e 17, so now I want something to use at home, something that maximize on comfort, you know like a full size headphone, so I am looking for the headphone that is  fitting to this criteria
    1. Closed or Open are both fine , I will be using this mostly at home and its generally quiet where I live, so probably open?
    2. have to sound better than beyer dt1350 , make sense i think ? I mean its larger and I would be using it at home only
    3. Can be powered by fiio e 17 (i am not ready to invest in one of those super power DAC and amp)
    4.I listen to mostly jpop, jrock, rock, something around that line so I would want something that would fit that kind of music and not something for classics or jazz
    5. Comfort is key I want something that is extremely comfortable to wear , probably not leather pads since they make me sweat some bit
    6. Budget is around 400 ish? 450 is pushing for it?
     
    I am looking around at Senn 598 , or maybe foray to the 600 , and I don't know what else is there? Can you guys pick for me? probably not something from beyer since I want to try other manufacturer, so help me pls?
     
     
    thanks headfi
     
  2. MalVeauX
    Heya,
     
    Sennheiser HD600
    AudioTechnica A900X
    Beyer DT880 250ohm
    Hifiman HE-400
    Denon D2000, D5000
    AKG Q701
    Sony MA900
     
    Very best,
     
  3. Retrias
    Care to explain how those differs from each other ? besides their look? I mean I literally only seen some pictures of them and know next to nothing about it
     
  4. obobskivich
    Grado SR-225/325 or RS-2, Audio-Technica ATH-ESW9, in addition to what MalVeauX said.
     
  5. MalVeauX
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    Extensive reviews are here at Head-Fi. Not to be rude, but I would suggest you search them to get several in depth looks from various people so you can form your own idea.
     
    I suggested them based on sound stage, ability with vocals, ability with low end frequencies, and being able to be sufficiently driven from your E17.
     
    However, in a nut shell:
     
    HD600 - Neutral, great sound stage, natural sound, staple all `rounder.
    A900X - On the bassy side, with very good vocals and mids, very exciting, not analytical, warm with a sparkle.
    DT880 - Neutral, a little analytical, great sound stage, great all `rounder.
    HE-400 - Dark warm planar magnetic, so treble is rolled off, it's not bright, mids are excellent, great for vocals and instruments, a little on the bassy side, can be exciting, pretty dark and warm.
    D2K/5K - Super comfortable, amazing sub-bass, great for vocals and instruments, sparkly treble, staple all `rounders.
    Q701 - Dry warmish, with a large sound stage, great separation, pretty neutral but with a hint of warmth, not overly analytical but not lush either.
    MA900 - Huge sound stage, warmer than neutral, excellent mids and not overly bright or dark.
     
    Very best,
     
  6. Retrias
    Oh thanks, I would read up some of the reviews then to get a better impression on these , I just want to know the opinion on those headphone
     
  7. wes008
    Grado SR325is (Open, spacious soundstage, great for your genres)
    Sony MDR-1R (Closed, nice extension in either direction, great for your genres)
     
    Ai?
     
  8. timtoo
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    if you have $400 budget why you dont use $200 on headphone and $200 on amp
     
  9. MalVeauX
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    Because not all headphones need an amp at all; and many do not need a $200 amplifier even if they do need an amp. He already has an E17. He's good to go for virtually all headphones under 300ohms with a few exceptions.
     
    Very best,
     
  10. KCxSmacker
    I think the HE-400 would work very well for you. get the velour pads and a senn. headband to mod onto the he400 for comfort and you should be good to go. 
     
  11. jerg Contributor
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    AFAIK more recent HE400s have treble tuned up much more, it is now very extended (maybe a bit overly so, some tizziness issues); definitely a bit more balanced then older HE400s but at the same time it's not quite the same signature they are known for.
     
  12. Retrias
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    How hard is it to do this mod? I don't think I can do much since I don't have much of a tool in here
     
    Hmm I can't seem to find the denon 5000 for my budget (they are 800 on the shop I usually go too, can't find them in stock elsewhere either), I will try to have a look at the Audio Technica , whats is the difference between the 2k and 5k?
     
    what do you guys think from the
    Denons 2k/5k
    A900x (is there any difference between the one that have "x" or without "x"?)
    HE-400
    HD 600
     
    as for the budget question
    that is because i don't think, I need another amp yet , especially not a desktop one , since I am currently studying abroad, it would create problem when I want to go back
     
  13. obobskivich
    Denon AH-D2000 and AH-D5000 are discontinued - hence why you can't find them anywhere at realistic prices (MSRP on the D5000 was $699 and street was usually closer to $500, for reference; $800 is pathetic).

    There is a difference between Audio-Technica ATH-A900 and A900X, but I've only heard A900X (A900 is discontinued though). They aren't bad, but I'm not in love with them - for the ~$220 they go for in the US I'd say they're fair overall, and would be a nice reprieve from some overly analytical, treble-boosted "audiophile" can. The HD 600 would be superior though. No idea on the HE-400.


    So of the list you have, the Denon are implausible, I don't know about the HE-400, and I'd take the HD 600 over the Denon or A900X any day. If you need them to be closed though, the AT aren't a bad choice at all. I like the Senn more because of their relaxed, dark-ish, natural sound - they aren't perfect, but they do a lot right and not a lot wrong. I'd also steer you towards at least considering Ultrasone or Grado, if you can do an open headphone.
     
  14. Retrias
    Oh , So thats why I can't find that specific model number everywhere, I don't mind open backed headphone at all , especially  for this one , since I would only be using it at my private place
    Aren't the grados on ear from what I read in some reviews and not the over ear full size version? Which of the ultrasone would you recommend. I would like this one to be a full size earphone though since I am guessing that would maximize comfort
     
  15. obobskivich

    Grados (except the 1000s, which are way out of your proposed budget) are on-ear, yes. They're fairly comfy imho though - on-ear isn't always a bad thing.

    Ultrasone-wise, the HFI-2400 would be where I'd point you. Around-ear, velour pads, etc.
     
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