Custom Art FIBAE Black Announcement
Feb 23, 2019 at 3:34 PM Post #256 of 551
Ohhh my Black have shipped I am so excited now :D

This is a review I am going to love writing... unless I get sucked in the Black beautiful sound and forget to analyze altogether which I suspect is going to happen given what I have experienced when I auditioned them :p

Nope delivery is due monday so I know when, it’s UPS and I’ll have to get it delivered to an UPS Relay.
But yeah I am so very impatient!

No doubt the Black will be my goto IEM for late night sessions, from what @piotrus-g wrote the FIBAE 4 is a much more dynamic and punchy signature so it’s not really a matter of one being better than the other, just different flavors. The few minutes I got when I auditioned the Black I was so smitten with them! It’s a unique signature and one that will rank very high against any IEM at any price point. It’s so very addictive, the mediums are to die for really... those babies are going to lull me to a deep relax state no doubt. It should be sponsored by health care as a top way to lower blood pressure really!

I expect the FIBAE 4 to grab my attention and get me to tap my toe in rythm :D a very different signature and one I will also enjoy a great deal!
Congratulations! If you have a camera with a macro lens, I hope you'll consider putting it to use for the common good. I'm also really scared of falling asleep with earphones in. I move around a lot when I sleep and would probably strangle myself. At least I'll die happy.
So you are going to spend the weekend spamming f5 on the tracking are you? The real question is are you going to be able to take the blacks out when you get the f4 eventually? :p
I've been spamming F5 on this page to see when people are getting their pairs. Each time someone posts that they are getting theirs, I know we're getting that much closer...
 
Feb 25, 2019 at 12:16 PM Post #257 of 551
So my Black beauties have landed :D

First, as usual for customs there is the big question of will I have a good fit and I can clear this right away : the fit is just perfect, in fact the best I had so far and my VE8 had a pretty great fit I just like the Black better as they fit tighter and that’s exactly what I wanted. Build quality is up there with the best and I am very happy the shell is smooth and very comfortable to wear. Kudos to Custom Art there!

:clap: @piotrus-g :thumbsup:
(and thanks to you and Kamil for bearing with my enquiring every week of when I would get my Black :p )

Now sound, I had a quick audition of the universal and was smitten with them, the custom only builds up on the universal and I think it’s even better. Obviously get a bit more bass slam and while it won’t turn the Black into a basshead IEM, it doesn’t have a lot of sub but it has deceptively good mid bass very enjoyable with lot of details and texture. The rest of the signature is much in line with my memory of it, with beautiful mids that will require a bit of time to get into all they have to offer. I can already say that vocals are a special mention so very beautiful... this is the best portraying of James Blake « Vincent » I have ever heard just to mention one track that really jumped at me though my first 45 minutes with the FIBAE Black going randomly through a playlist right now. I think the mids is going to be a big part of my review for the Black, a lot is happening there. I like the treble very much as well, there is a weight to that treble, and although it’s not a highlight of the signature there is much more to that story than meets the eye. Sweet nuances are definitely there it’s just not sparkly :p

I like to post very early impressions as they usually reflects what jumps at you initially... I am really impressed at the Black soundstage depth, it’s really very very good and overall the soundstage is highly coherent.

This is really one of a kind IEM in terms of signature, I’d be hard pressed to mention a similar IEM, but granted I have never heard the Warbler Prelude and I’d be curious for a comparison.

Anyway, I am on for dozens of cozy hours with the FIBAE Black and pretty happy at the prospect :D
 

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Feb 25, 2019 at 12:19 PM Post #258 of 551
So my Black beauties have landed :D

First, as usual for customs there is the big question of will I have a good fit and I can clear this right away : the fit is just perfect, in fact the best I had so far and my VE8 had a pretty great fit I just like the Black better as they fit tighter and that’s exactly what I wanted. Build quality is up there with the best and I am very happy the shell is smooth and very comfortable to wear. Kudos to Custom Art there!

:clap: @piotrus-g :thumbsup:


Now sound, I had a quick audition of the universal and was smitten with them, the custom only build up and I think it’s even better. Obviously get a bit more bass slam and while it won’t turn the Black into a basshead IEM, it doesn’t have a lot of sub but it has deceptively good mid bass very enjoyable with lot of details and texture. The rest of the signature is much to my memory of it, with beautiful mids that will require a bit of time to get into all they have to offer. I can already say that vocals are a special mention so very beautiful... this is the best portraying of James Blake « Vincent » I have ever heard just to mention one track that really jumped at me though my first 45 minutes with the FIBAE Black going randomly through a playlist right now. I think the mids is going to be a big part of my review for the Black, a lot is happening there. I like the treble very much as well, there is a weight to that treble, and although it’s not a highlight of the signature there is much more to that story than meets the eye. Sweet nuances are definitely there it’s just not sparkly :p

I like to post very early impressions as they usually reflects what jumps at you initially... I am really impressed at the Black soundstage depth, it’s really very very good and overall the soundstage is highly coherent.

This is really one of a kind IEM in terms of signature, I’d be hard pressed to mention a similar IEM, but granted I have never heard the Warbler Prelude and I’d be curious for a comparison.

Anyway, I am on for dozens of cozy hours with the FIBAE Black and pretty happy at the prospect :D
Post pics! This thread needs livening up:) About 2 weeks for mine right now I believe give or take.
 
Feb 25, 2019 at 12:43 PM Post #259 of 551
Post pics! This thread needs livening up:) About 2 weeks for mine right now I believe give or take.

I will, I will, just arrived from a 6 hour drive...

Here is a quick very lousy one, I was waiting to have better pics

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Feb 25, 2019 at 1:51 PM Post #260 of 551
So my Black beauties have landed :D

First, as usual for customs there is the big question of will I have a good fit and I can clear this right away : the fit is just perfect, in fact the best I had so far and my VE8 had a pretty great fit I just like the Black better as they fit tighter and that’s exactly what I wanted. Build quality is up there with the best and I am very happy the shell is smooth and very comfortable to wear. Kudos to Custom Art there!

:clap: @piotrus-g :thumbsup:
(and thanks to you and Kamil for bearing with my enquiring every week of when I would get my Black :p )

Now sound, I had a quick audition of the universal and was smitten with them, the custom only builds up on the universal and I think it’s even better. Obviously get a bit more bass slam and while it won’t turn the Black into a basshead IEM, it doesn’t have a lot of sub but it has deceptively good mid bass very enjoyable with lot of details and texture. The rest of the signature is much in line with my memory of it, with beautiful mids that will require a bit of time to get into all they have to offer. I can already say that vocals are a special mention so very beautiful... this is the best portraying of James Blake « Vincent » I have ever heard just to mention one track that really jumped at me though my first 45 minutes with the FIBAE Black going randomly through a playlist right now. I think the mids is going to be a big part of my review for the Black, a lot is happening there. I like the treble very much as well, there is a weight to that treble, and although it’s not a highlight of the signature there is much more to that story than meets the eye. Sweet nuances are definitely there it’s just not sparkly :p

I like to post very early impressions as they usually reflects what jumps at you initially... I am really impressed at the Black soundstage depth, it’s really very very good and overall the soundstage is highly coherent.

This is really one of a kind IEM in terms of signature, I’d be hard pressed to mention a similar IEM, but granted I have never heard the Warbler Prelude and I’d be curious for a comparison.

Anyway, I am on for dozens of cozy hours with the FIBAE Black and pretty happy at the prospect :D
I'll do the digging. :wink:

Tada!

(If I ever get un-lazy enough to take and edit a picture, I'll place it here in the future. :wink:)

vs. Warbler Audio Prelude


The Prelude and the Black have a fair share of similarities. One of them would be upper-midrange presentation. Both have palpable energy at 3kHz which gives instruments this lively, forwardly energy. The Prelude, though, has more energy around 500Hz-1kHz, which gives it a meatier, richer and more organic timbre - especially when combined with its greater 5kHz dip. If the Black is your reference, the Prelude would sound marginally thicker and more nasally. The Black’s noticeable advantages are in stage construction. It has a blacker, deeper background, as well as a larger stage. The difference in width isn’t significant, but the difference in depth surely is. (Keep in mind, I’m comparing the two on single-ended with their respective stock cables; spatial differences may become further exaggerated in balanced mode.) The Black’s 10kHz peak gives it a faster, sharper transient response, so notes are more hard-edged and articulate compared to the Prelude. But, the peak isn’t large, so the difference isn’t staggering. It’s not gonna be a HD650-vs-HD800 sort of difference if you catch my drift. Though, because the Black does have good 6kHz energy as well, it’s gonna sound a bit more throaty than the Prelude. Instruments like horns will sound a touch honky-er, while the Prelude has the more natural, smooth release. Female vocals also have a more husky, smoky tone on the Prelude, while they sound wispier and raspier on the Black - again, by a slight margin; the vocalist doesn’t suddenly develop a sore throat or anything. But at the same time, the Prelude’s organic warmth renders it a step behind the Black in terms of detail retrieval, layering and separation. Stage stability also goes to the Black. Its treble extension and resonator technology creates lower distortion, so the stage isn’t mucked up by warm air. Consequently, tiny nuances like reverb and decay come through more easily for a more transparent listening experience. In terms of left-centre-right separation, the Black performs more clinically. It segregates the three to a greater degree, which shows itself effectively when listening to songs with prominent panning effects. The Prelude’s notes are more bloom-y and less compact, so left, centre and right somewhat blend into each other. This is musical and intimate with more simply-arranged tracks, but it can make busier tracks more difficult to follow. Bass extension goes to the Black as well. There’s a more satisfying cadence with pop and EDM tracks, even though bass quantity isn’t far off. The Black certainly has more of a rhythmic drive.

vs. Jomo Audio Haka

While the Prelude is the Black’s tonal companion, Haka is its spatial one. Both portray similar levels of width, depth and left-right separation, but they differ in approach. The Haka has a much calmer 3-4kHz range - in fact, it seems like it dips where the Black peaks - so vocals are much more laid-back and calm. But because of this, they may come across slightly diffuse, especially with mixes that already attenuate that range. There’s a lackadaisical-ness to how instruments are presented in the Haka, that’s less exciting, intimate and vibrant than those on the Black. This is how it achieves its sense of depth - a bit of a compromise, admittedly. On the other hand, the Black gains depth by maintaining a more neutral sub-bass. The projection of instruments is never overpowered by the low-end. The Haka is the reverse: It has a more guttural, lively sub-bass. In low-end heavy tracks like Sabrina Claudio’s Don’t Let Me Down or Eminem’s Lucky You, rumble takes precedence over vocal presence - especially considering the Haka’s laid-back upper-mids. Consequently, in order to maintain headroom and stage cleanliness, the Haka has a calmer mid-bass. The Black has greater mid-bass quantity and yet achieves equal - if not higher - headroom relative to the Haka. This is because of its superior treble extension. In left-centre-right separation, the two go blow-for-blow. The Haka has more apparent depth because of its withdrawn vocals, while the Black has greater stereo resolution. Sounds along the left-and-right-most edges of the stage have greater integrity and solidity, while they’re a tad less focused on the Haka. Both in-ears have a 6kHz peak for articulation, plus dips at 5 and 8kHz. So, transients have a bit of a feathered edge to them, but they’re still articulate nonetheless. The Haka’s upper-mid dip makes those top-end transients sound lighter and faster, while the Black’s are a touch more rounded and thick by comparison. Remember: We’re talking about the transients here; not the notes. For reference, cymbals on the two sound similar, but the Haka generates more of a pssst sound, while the Black leans closer towards a psh-ssst sound. The Black’s 10kHz peak again gives transients a slightly brighter, harder edge, so its background is a touch less black compared to the Haka’s. Cymbals and hi-hats leave very slight traces of bright harmonics, while the Haka decays faster in a cleaner manner. But, the Black compensates in resolution. Despite strong articulation, the Haka’s images are softer and more wispy. The Black presents more solid, three-dimensional notes with greater physicality from transience to decay.

vs. 64Audio A6t

64Audio’s A6t is the outlier of the four in terms of tonal balance and presentation - a large contributor of that is its tia driver. Unlike the other three, the A6t has noticeable energy in the upper-treble, which results in its crisp and prominently-detailed sound. But, this results in its transients being the least natural and smooth of them all as well. Compared to the Black, the A6t has a much tizzy-er edge, because of palpable peaks at 7 and 12kHz. Details are more pronounced and clarity is higher too, but some coherence is sacrificed along the way. The Black has a more natural, organic response, but it certainly isn’t as crisp, dazzling or exciting as the A6t. Contrast between the A6t’s lively treble and its deep, rumbly lows give the in-ear a superior sense of energy and rhythm. Additionally, because of a greater 1-2kHz rise, the A6t has larger, weightier, denser instruments. This is crucial for its musicality and engagement, but it does concede imaging and separation by a hair to the Black. The Black is more capable at isolating its individual elements, while the A6t chooses to coalesce them to form a more singular, exhilarating, in-your-face sort of image. Distorted electric guitars like the ones on Mark Lettieri’s Little Minx - for example - are crunchier and more satisfying to listen to. The A6t’s low-end emphasis lies closer between the mid- and sub-bass, while the Black’s is more mid- and upper-bass-inclined. As a result, the A6t has a more satisfying, more energetic cadence when listening to EDM drops, electric guitar riffs and kick drum rhythms. But, the Black has the more accurate, organic tone; utterly engrossing to listen to with upright basses and pianos. With these two instruments, the A6t’s low-end lacks a touch of warmth and resonance to sound completely accurate in my opinion. How the two compare in staging is one of the major reasons why I assumed the Black was a 5-6 driver, $1200-1500 in-ear in the first place. The Black competes very capably against the A6t in terms of stage expansion and spatial resolution. The two are equals in width, depth and height, but the Black has the advantage of headroom. Because of the A6t’s larger notes and louder transients, there isn’t much space left for instruments to breathe and render detail as they decay. The Black - again - is less crisp, vibrant and loud by comparison, but its laid-back delivery makes its details much easier to take in. Of course, which of the two you prefer will depend on your preferences. If you like more apparent detail, you'll definitely prefer the A6t's response. Finally, in overall tone, the two reside in a similar region of neutral-natural; mid-bass warmth offset by an articulate treble sandwiching a dense, rich midrange in the middle. But, they differ in timbre. The Black is more organic, laid-back and linear, while the A6t is more rock-concert-like. Again, different strokes for different folks.
 
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Feb 25, 2019 at 4:02 PM Post #261 of 551
Feb 25, 2019 at 7:23 PM Post #262 of 551
So my Black beauties have landed :D

First, as usual for customs there is the big question of will I have a good fit and I can clear this right away : the fit is just perfect, in fact the best I had so far and my VE8 had a pretty great fit I just like the Black better as they fit tighter and that’s exactly what I wanted. Build quality is up there with the best and I am very happy the shell is smooth and very comfortable to wear. Kudos to Custom Art there!

:clap: @piotrus-g :thumbsup:
(and thanks to you and Kamil for bearing with my enquiring every week of when I would get my Black :p )

Now sound, I had a quick audition of the universal and was smitten with them, the custom only builds up on the universal and I think it’s even better. Obviously get a bit more bass slam and while it won’t turn the Black into a basshead IEM, it doesn’t have a lot of sub but it has deceptively good mid bass very enjoyable with lot of details and texture. The rest of the signature is much in line with my memory of it, with beautiful mids that will require a bit of time to get into all they have to offer. I can already say that vocals are a special mention so very beautiful... this is the best portraying of James Blake « Vincent » I have ever heard just to mention one track that really jumped at me though my first 45 minutes with the FIBAE Black going randomly through a playlist right now. I think the mids is going to be a big part of my review for the Black, a lot is happening there. I like the treble very much as well, there is a weight to that treble, and although it’s not a highlight of the signature there is much more to that story than meets the eye. Sweet nuances are definitely there it’s just not sparkly :p

I like to post very early impressions as they usually reflects what jumps at you initially... I am really impressed at the Black soundstage depth, it’s really very very good and overall the soundstage is highly coherent.

This is really one of a kind IEM in terms of signature, I’d be hard pressed to mention a similar IEM, but granted I have never heard the Warbler Prelude and I’d be curious for a comparison.

Anyway, I am on for dozens of cozy hours with the FIBAE Black and pretty happy at the prospect :D

I will, I will, just arrived from a 6 hour drive...

Here is a quick very lousy one, I was waiting to have better pics


Alright! Keep us updated on the status of your review. It's dangerous what you said though: I've been resisting the urge to request status updates and to hear you did it every week, well... I'll do my best to keep resisting the urge for Custom's Art's sake. I know Domino's pizza here has a "pizza tracker" where it somehow is able to tell you the pizza update (e.g. "In the oven!"). An IEM tracker would be neat but unnecessarily cumbersome... I think... <must... resist...>. What was your total wait time @davidmolliere? Did they already have your molds or did you have to send them?

Post pics! This thread needs livening up:) About 2 weeks for mine right now I believe give or take.
I know the feeling. I'm using people's reviews and reports to carry me through. I've re-read the thread a few times here too. I'm getting close to four weeks but I'm scared that some grizzled head-fier is going to come bursting out of the thread from nowhere and say, "Well, oh yeah!? I've been waiting EIGHT WEEKS and I'm still going strong! gEt oN mY lEveL!" and I'll shrink back in fear.

I've been casually dropping to certain people asking about CIEMs. Our drummer at church, for instance, has an old pair of UE's. Our worship director is talking about getting a pair too. They're talking about scraping some kind of in-ear monitoring system for the on-stage band and fretting about costs and I'm sitting there pretending I haven't ordered a set of Custom Art's. I don't want to get into an argument with any preconceived notions they may have. I want to wait till I have my Blacks in hand (ear?) before making the big reveal. Doesn't help that we don't have a distributor here in Hawaii. (@piotrus-g, you may want to double-check the distributor page on your site. The USA heading has a link to a Thai store, unless they are the approved US representative).
 
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Feb 25, 2019 at 8:30 PM Post #263 of 551
Alright! Keep us updated on the status of your review. It's dangerous what you said though: I've been resisting the urge to request status updates and to hear you did it every week, well... I'll do my best to keep resisting the urge for Custom's Art's sake. I know Domino's pizza here has a "pizza tracker" where it somehow is able to tell you the pizza update (e.g. "In the oven!"). An IEM tracker would be neat but unnecessarily cumbersome... I think... <must... resist...>. What was your total wait time @davidmolliere? Did they already have your molds or did you have to send them?

Well I did ping every week for the last 3 weeks but other than that I was pretty quiet. I am of the impatient kind, I confess...
From the payment confirmation (dec 19th) to the delivery (feb 25th) that was 9 weeks if I am not mistaken.

annasoh323 said:
I know the feeling. I'm using people's reviews and reports to carry me through. I've re-read the thread a few times here too. I'm getting close to four weeks but I'm scared that some grizzled head-fier is going to come bursting out of the thread from nowhere and say, "Well, oh yeah!? I've been waiting EIGHT WEEKS and I'm still going strong! gEt oN mY lEveL!" and I'll shrink back in fear.

Yeah well, the hardest part is the not knowing but I think now things are going steady :)
Introducing 3D printer in the mix and new methods is bound to induce delays not to mention attractive launch prices, I am not complaining ;P

Now the wait for the FIBAE 4 starts, 8 weeks but I have the Black to ease it :wink:
 
Feb 25, 2019 at 10:10 PM Post #264 of 551
Well I did ping every week for the last 3 weeks but other than that I was pretty quiet. I am of the impatient kind, I confess...
From the payment confirmation (dec 19th) to the delivery (feb 25th) that was 9 weeks if I am not mistaken.



Yeah well, the hardest part is the not knowing but I think now things are going steady :)
Introducing 3D printer in the mix and new methods is bound to induce delays not to mention attractive launch prices, I am not complaining ;P

Now the wait for the FIBAE 4 starts, 8 weeks but I have the Black to ease it :wink:
True, Piotr did mention there were some early supply issues and you slot right into that time period. What colors did you order the Fibae 4 in?
 
Feb 26, 2019 at 5:54 AM Post #265 of 551
So my Black beauties have landed :D

First, as usual for customs there is the big question of will I have a good fit and I can clear this right away : the fit is just perfect, in fact the best I had so far and my VE8 had a pretty great fit I just like the Black better as they fit tighter and that’s exactly what I wanted. Build quality is up there with the best and I am very happy the shell is smooth and very comfortable to wear. Kudos to Custom Art there!

:clap: @piotrus-g :thumbsup:
(and thanks to you and Kamil for bearing with my enquiring every week of when I would get my Black :p )

Now sound, I had a quick audition of the universal and was smitten with them, the custom only builds up on the universal and I think it’s even better. Obviously get a bit more bass slam and while it won’t turn the Black into a basshead IEM, it doesn’t have a lot of sub but it has deceptively good mid bass very enjoyable with lot of details and texture. The rest of the signature is much in line with my memory of it, with beautiful mids that will require a bit of time to get into all they have to offer. I can already say that vocals are a special mention so very beautiful... this is the best portraying of James Blake « Vincent » I have ever heard just to mention one track that really jumped at me though my first 45 minutes with the FIBAE Black going randomly through a playlist right now. I think the mids is going to be a big part of my review for the Black, a lot is happening there. I like the treble very much as well, there is a weight to that treble, and although it’s not a highlight of the signature there is much more to that story than meets the eye. Sweet nuances are definitely there it’s just not sparkly :p

I like to post very early impressions as they usually reflects what jumps at you initially... I am really impressed at the Black soundstage depth, it’s really very very good and overall the soundstage is highly coherent.

This is really one of a kind IEM in terms of signature, I’d be hard pressed to mention a similar IEM, but granted I have never heard the Warbler Prelude and I’d be curious for a comparison.

Anyway, I am on for dozens of cozy hours with the FIBAE Black and pretty happy at the prospect :D
I'm so so happy to hear that! Enjoy your IEMs and happy listening!

Alright! Keep us updated on the status of your review. It's dangerous what you said though: I've been resisting the urge to request status updates and to hear you did it every week, well... I'll do my best to keep resisting the urge for Custom's Art's sake. I know Domino's pizza here has a "pizza tracker" where it somehow is able to tell you the pizza update (e.g. "In the oven!"). An IEM tracker would be neat but unnecessarily cumbersome... I think... <must... resist...>. What was your total wait time @davidmolliere? Did they already have your molds or did you have to send them?


I know the feeling. I'm using people's reviews and reports to carry me through. I've re-read the thread a few times here too. I'm getting close to four weeks but I'm scared that some grizzled head-fier is going to come bursting out of the thread from nowhere and say, "Well, oh yeah!? I've been waiting EIGHT WEEKS and I'm still going strong! gEt oN mY lEveL!" and I'll shrink back in fear.

I've been casually dropping to certain people asking about CIEMs. Our drummer at church, for instance, has an old pair of UE's. Our worship director is talking about getting a pair too. They're talking about scraping some kind of in-ear monitoring system for the on-stage band and fretting about costs and I'm sitting there pretending I haven't ordered a set of Custom Art's. I don't want to get into an argument with any preconceived notions they may have. I want to wait till I have my Blacks in hand (ear?) before making the big reveal. Doesn't help that we don't have a distributor here in Hawaii. (@piotrus-g, you may want to double-check the distributor page on your site. The USA heading has a link to a Thai store, unless they are the approved US representative).
Ah yeah, we were thinking about implementing such tracker but to make it work at the scale we are we would need an integrated system with bar code scanner etc.
I know about the US distributor technically BKK is somewhat present in US, so they are listed there. Still feel free to drop a direct order for any orders.

Well I did ping every week for the last 3 weeks but other than that I was pretty quiet. I am of the impatient kind, I confess...
From the payment confirmation (dec 19th) to the delivery (feb 25th) that was 9 weeks if I am not mistaken.
Yeah well, the hardest part is the not knowing but I think now things are going steady :)
Introducing 3D printer in the mix and new methods is bound to induce delays not to mention attractive launch prices, I am not complaining ;P

Now the wait for the FIBAE 4 starts, 8 weeks but I have the Black to ease it :wink:
The problem is that sometimes there's a last second issue that needs resolving so that's why it's so hard for us to predict 100% correct shipping date and it delays production. We are now working towards optimization and cutting build time to get back on track with 4week build time. Which at a queue going into a few hundreds is not an easy feat.
 
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Feb 26, 2019 at 7:32 AM Post #266 of 551
I will never be able to decide which model to order as I am not advanced enough to figure out the sound that I prefer.
Do you ever attend audio fares in Europe guys? I could probably book a flight and try these out in person, if you have the schedule.
 
Feb 26, 2019 at 10:34 AM Post #267 of 551
Ah yeah, we were thinking about implementing such tracker but to make it work at the scale we are we would need an integrated system with bar code scanner etc.
I know about the US distributor technically BKK is somewhat present in US, so they are listed there. Still feel free to drop a direct order for any orders.
I know such a tracking system is probably not really worth it for just a tiny bit of piece of mind. Regarding distributors, I understand. Maybe I misunderstand the industry wording a bit: Would a distributor be a primary point of contact to receive demonstrations of the products? My church's music director, for instance, found someone who demos UE earphones and he's leaning toward getting those because he had a chance to listen to them and because of name recognition. I'd love to point him to CA but I just don't know how to get the name out there. (Interestingly, one of the audiologists I checked said they dealt exclusively in Westone products. Checking Westone's site, I don't see them listed there as a distributor.) I may just be mourning the overall lack of options for demoing audio gear here in Hawaii.
 
Feb 26, 2019 at 11:59 AM Post #268 of 551
I will never be able to decide which model to order as I am not advanced enough to figure out the sound that I prefer.
Do you ever attend audio fares in Europe guys? I could probably book a flight and try these out in person, if you have the schedule.
AudioVideoShow in Poland in November, otherwise there's CanJam London, which I don't think we will make it and we don't attend pro-audio shows in Germany (yet... I guess) so, maybe it would be easier for us to send you a demo unit instead?
I know such a tracking system is probably not really worth it for just a tiny bit of piece of mind. Regarding distributors, I understand. Maybe I misunderstand the industry wording a bit: Would a distributor be a primary point of contact to receive demonstrations of the products? My church's music director, for instance, found someone who demos UE earphones and he's leaning toward getting those because he had a chance to listen to them and because of name recognition. I'd love to point him to CA but I just don't know how to get the name out there. (Interestingly, one of the audiologists I checked said they dealt exclusively in Westone products. Checking Westone's site, I don't see them listed there as a distributor.) I may just be mourning the overall lack of options for demoing audio gear here in Hawaii.
Well yes and no, depends on the market - in Japan, HK and South Korea, we have an exclusive distributors so indeed that would be primary point of contact, for the rest of the world we don't have exclusive agreements in place.
 
Feb 26, 2019 at 12:20 PM Post #269 of 551
I know such a tracking system is probably not really worth it for just a tiny bit of piece of mind. Regarding distributors, I understand. Maybe I misunderstand the industry wording a bit: Would a distributor be a primary point of contact to receive demonstrations of the products? My church's music director, for instance, found someone who demos UE earphones and he's leaning toward getting those because he had a chance to listen to them and because of name recognition. I'd love to point him to CA but I just don't know how to get the name out there. (Interestingly, one of the audiologists I checked said they dealt exclusively in Westone products. Checking Westone's site, I don't see them listed there as a distributor.) I may just be mourning the overall lack of options for demoing audio gear here in Hawaii.

Get a universal solely to lend to your group? Or ask CA if it's possible to have some demo units over for a deposit on the credit card?
 
Feb 26, 2019 at 12:38 PM Post #270 of 551
AudioVideoShow in Poland in November, otherwise there's CanJam London, which I don't think we will make it and we don't attend pro-audio shows in Germany (yet... I guess) so, maybe it would be easier for us to send you a demo unit instead?

Well yes and no, depends on the market - in Japan, HK and South Korea, we have an exclusive distributors so indeed that would be primary point of contact, for the rest of the world we don't have exclusive agreements in place.
Get a universal solely to lend to your group? Or ask CA if it's possible to have some demo units over for a deposit on the credit card?
I'll have to check our (his?) budget and kind of sound he's looking for. I didn't think that demo could get sent out for anything less than a main distributor or audio show. I'll have to go test the waters.
 

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