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Jun 19, 2024 at 2:26 PM Post #19,172 of 19,989
So far I can stream from UAPP/BubbleUPnP/mconnect to the Poly without issue.
But I can't pick Poly as a source to play the SDCard, neither with UAPP/BubbleUPnP/mconnect. Poly is not seen as a source.
Looks like the Poly UPnP server is not there.
Any idea ? Maybe the SD card is not firing a server as long as there is no playlist recognized ?
On the device info, I still see 0 MDP playlist even if I have a file "mpd.db" at the root of my SDCard ...

Poly as UPnP/DLNA client is generally good. Poly as DLNA server tricky. As mentioned before, it's better to use an MPD client if you want to play SD card files reliably. MConnect/BubbleUPnP pretty variable using Poly as a DLNA source. I had problems with UAPP as well. MConnect can generally see the Poly as a DLNA source, but I had issues with it cutting out after a couple/few songs. It could be related to the app on the phone and the battery management software putting the app to sleep. I gave up on BubbleUPnP for the same reason. I could never get UAPP to see the Poly.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 2:30 PM Post #19,173 of 19,989
Just managed to do that using MALP. I thought I could do it from Windows but these were not recognized.
You really need to forget we are in 2024 to set this up
If you create the playlist on Windows, you'll have to transfer the playlist to the SD card. You may need to reformat the path as well.

I used to create a playlist on MALP, maximum MPD, etc... I would then analyze the file pathway so that when I created playlists on a desktop client (so much easier), I knew the proper file pathway the poly needs.

If it helps, Shanling to this day requires you to do this very thing for their M1S and M0pro players.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 3:00 PM Post #19,175 of 19,989
Just managed to do that using MALP. I thought I could do it from Windows but these were not recognized.
You really need to forget we are in 2024 to set this up
my life it would drive me nuts, I have 60000 files in folders,on my network share and with my Astell and kern I use a 2TB sd with my music folders perfectly ordered by artist folder, album folder, genre folders etc.... having to create playlist of that.... insane
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 3:38 PM Post #19,176 of 19,989
Ha-ha! Everyone's weighing in now but I do feel that we need a bit of balance here. Is GoFigure an amazing app? No, but as it's not meant to do anything more than be settings for the Poly it does the job. I've never had any problems with it (never needed a 'close' button as it always auto-quits and restarts) and only open it once in a blue moon to update the firmware (and yes, I could update to the latest). Does Poly work with my very average router? Yes. Does it create a hotspot that my phone can find? Yes. Can it find a hotspot from my phone? Yes. Can I stream to it from any device in my house (that uses Airplay)? Yes. Does it sound great from the SD card? Yes. Granted, I don't use any streaming services and don't use it as a walkabout device but for my use case, it works really well and sounds fantastic. As with most stuff, things are rarely black or white.

Good for you it all works fine. However in my case:

1. Does poly work with my router (really good up to date router)? No unless I connect to it's 2.4Ghz network in which case I have to also connect my iphone to that network. Connecting Poly to my hybrid 2.4/5Ghz SSID does not work.

2. Does it create hotspot my phone can find? Not in my apartment - GoFigure never lists my iphone hotspot as available wifi network (although other devices in my apartment do see it - for example my macbook pro and ipad both see it - only GoFigure does not see it).

3. Does it sound great from SD card? Fortunatelly yes when I use Poly hotspot MPD than it works and sounds perfectly - and in the end that's the most important to me and makes Poly absolutely worth having.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 4:06 PM Post #19,177 of 19,989
Good for you it all works fine. However in my case:

1. Does poly work with my router (really good up to date router)? No unless I connect to it's 2.4Ghz network in which case I have to also connect my iphone to that network. Connecting Poly to my hybrid 2.4/5Ghz SSID does not work.

2. Does it create hotspot my phone can find? Not in my apartment - GoFigure never lists my iphone hotspot as available wifi network (although other devices in my apartment do see it - for example my macbook pro and ipad both see it - only GoFigure does not see it).

3. Does it sound great from SD card? Fortunatelly yes when I use Poly hotspot MPD than it works and sounds perfectly - and in the end that's the most important to me and makes Poly absolutely worth having.
Please understand, I didn't say that just to try and make you feel worse. There obviously are some problems with how the Poly connects in some instances (for whatever reason, hard or software) but I felt it was worth redressing the balance a bit when problems turn to rants about a thing, then the company that makes the thing and so on. I hope you get it sorted or sold and find a better thing that works for you. Getting something working should never take over the enjoyment of listening.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 4:10 PM Post #19,178 of 19,989
Kinda. There is a playlist function on GoFigure that makes each album a separate playlist. I found it severely lacking.

How do you do that? I have never seen that function.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 4:32 PM Post #19,179 of 19,989
How do you do that? I have never seen that function.

Well, that's interesting. They must have removed that feature. It came out in 2021. There was a bar above the playback control in the SD card section. Or maybe it never reached poly. I had a 2go for a few years too.

It quite honestly was a hot mess. Each album was a playlist. The absolute most idiotic implementation to read albums. They would've been smarter to have a folder browser.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 4:36 PM Post #19,180 of 19,989
Well, that's interesting. They must have removed that feature. It came out in 2021. There was a bar above the playback control in the SD card section. Or maybe it never reached poly. I had a 2go for a few years too.

It quite honestly was a hot mess. Each album was a playlist. The absolute most idiotic implementation to read albums. They would've been smarter to have a folder browser.

I did a bit of Google research and I don't think it ever made it to Poly... But as you said it didn't work all that well (apparently). Thanks for the reply.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 5:16 PM Post #19,181 of 19,989
my life it would drive me nuts, I have 60000 files in folders,on my network share and with my Astell and kern I use a 2TB sd with my music folders perfectly ordered by artist folder, album folder, genre folders etc.... having to create playlist of that.... insane

You don't really have to have playlist even though of course they are super convenient. I use MALP and have no playlists so far - just browse the file folders where my albums are stored and can easily just play the whole album that way - kind of old school like way back when we played vinyl.
Please understand, I didn't say that just to try and make you feel worse. There obviously are some problems with how the Poly connects in some instances (for whatever reason, hard or software) but I felt it was worth redressing the balance a bit when problems turn to rants about a thing, then the company that makes the thing and so on. I hope you get it sorted or sold and find a better thing that works for you. Getting something working should never take over the enjoyment of listening.
I understand - no argument here. I really like Chord as a company and definitely don't want to rant against them. It was actually very sad to read that they used to participate on this forum and left because people attacked them. That's the last think I would want to do to any hifi vendor let alone Chord who I think is one of the absolute best. Attacking GoFigure feels a little bit different somehow - I don't really think of that app as Chord's but whoever they outsourced development needs to be criticized (and Chord to the extent they did not do more to fix this issue with outsourced sofware/vendor).
 
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Jun 19, 2024 at 6:21 PM Post #19,182 of 19,989
^ This

Matt was a pretty good guy. It's easy to bash a manufacturer on a forum. Decorum and decency get lost on the internet.
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 7:08 PM Post #19,183 of 19,989
You can use your cellular wireless when connected to Mojo2+Poly running in Hotspot mode.
This works well if you are using the Poly for SD card playback and you carry only one mobile phone. Instructions are for Apple, Android is similar.

The Poly will have a iOS network name “Poly-########”. This is located on the iPhone’s Settings -> Wi-Fi.

Simple choose the small “I” in circle to the right of the Poly’s name in Network and complete the following:
*** Change “Configure IP” to manual.
Choose any 192.168.1.xxx address except 192.168.1.1
Subnet Mask is 255.255.255.0
Leave Router blank.

*** Configure DNS manually - 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are Google’s DNS servers and they work fine.

I also enable “Low Data Mode”

iOS will remember your settings unless you choose “Forget this Network”.

The blank gateway will allow iOS to route items destined to the internet to your cellular data instead of the Poly (which is 192.168.1.1).
Auto-Join will connect to the Poly network when it’s available and disabling Auto-Login will prevent the Poly’s internal login page.

This is the process that I use to enable hotspot mode.

1. Power on the Mojo2/Poly
2. Open Gofigure - attach to your Poly and choose Hotspot mode (top left icon), Poly will confirm and reboot.
3. Connect to Poly WiFi network in iOS. I enable Auto-Join and disable Auto-Login.
4. Use your MPD software to access the Poly’s SD card - if you set a manual IP without a Router / Gateway - you will have internet access via your iPhone’s cellular plan.

When finished - you can simply go into GoFigure and disable Hotspot mode - I usually just choose “Airplane / Bluetooth” mode, confirm and let the Poly reboot. Then turn off your Mojo2/Poly.

While this somewhat intricate - it allows you to use your iPhone with the Poly with cellular data.
This is working as of iOS 17.5.1.

I also have to post a very positive experience with the Sound Organization’s Rick Williford.

I sent my Poly on for a new battery and the entire process was seamless. They completed the work and my Poly is working perfectly and returned to me in less than one week.
They even re-positioned the optical light that can fall out if you take apart your device.

I’ve written a couple of posts regarding the Poly’s battery and how to replace it. I would recommend using the Sound Organization or any other Chord approved vendor if you want your device resorted it it’s original health.

The new battery charges to 100% and discharges about 10-12 percent per hour of use - just like it was new.
Plus I retained my original battery and its connector - so I can attempt to create a on/off toggle switch for the Poly battery. If I’m successful - I’ll post it here.

The Sound Organization email is “support (at) soundorg.com”.

References:
Location of WiFi Options on iOS 17.5.1.



Poly iOS Wi-Fi settings (blank router / gateway).

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On Android, I don't see Subnet Mask and I cannot let Router blank (the save button goes grey as soon as I do).
Should I use the subnet mask as the router IP ?
 
Jun 19, 2024 at 7:40 PM Post #19,185 of 19,989
^ This

Matt was a pretty good guy. It's easy to bash a manufacturer on a forum. Decorum and decency get lost on the internet.
I never like bashing anyone either, I hate it when people are like that. It is really easy, it won’t get you anywhere and you only mess up a nice atmosphere.

You can give a opinion, but don’t make it about the person.
 

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