FastAndClean
Previously known as presata
we are buying the t2 with more treble in the 5-9khz region and no upper trebleThen what exactly are we buying?
we are buying the t2 with more treble in the 5-9khz region and no upper trebleThen what exactly are we buying?
The BA has a more even treble that brings extra clarity and articulation without the shrillness of the T2 Pro. It is a brighter sound and won't suit the treble-sensitive but I think many people will enjoy it.So someone answer me this...
1. T2 Pro has the exact same bass as T2, and additional treble from about 5k to around 10k (graph courtesy of antdroid):
And T3 has the exact same bass as T2, and additional treble from about 5k to around 10k (graph courtesy of crabdog):
Then what exactly are we buying?
T3 seems to be effectively a T2 Pro with a real nice cable (but in a different shell and adding a Knowles BA).
we are buying the t2 with more treble in the 5-9khz region and no upper treble
The BA has a more even treble that brings extra clarity and articulation without the shrillness of the T2 Pro. It is a brighter sound and won't suit the treble-sensitive but I think many people will enjoy it.
The thing is, the T2 is praised for its transparency, speed and soundstage. If you added more bass, those qualities would be diminished and likely transform it into just another vanilla budget IEM.That’s fair.
I hope the people that bought one do enjoy it. If not for anything else other than the upgraded cable.
Me personally, I thought the treble in the T2 was perfectly fine. It was the low end that could have used some tweaking, not the treble. So I’m going to stay off the hype train at this time.
But like I said, I’m sure the T3 will be liked by people. There certainly are a lot of them being sold at the moment.
The thing is, the T2 is praised for its transparency, speed and soundstage. If you added more bass, those qualities would be diminished and likely transform it into just another vanilla budget IEM.
IMHO, for people who doesnt have T2s, can straight away buy T3, i believe its very good considering its price. For people who already own T2 or T2 pro, its not much upgrades. just slight refinement , maybe Knowles BA adding more clarity a bit.
T3 = more refinement of T2s, difficult to sell? borrow Knowles big name on it. tadaa!
The thing is, the T2 is praised for its transparency, speed and soundstage. If you added more bass, those qualities would be diminished and likely transform it into just another vanilla budget IEM.
Good textured sub bass that doesnt bleed to midbass, so mid stays clear, just additional sub bass, like stand alone sub bass, not muddy bass that bleeds to midbass or worse, lower mid
KZ ZSN is good example of this kind of bass (cheap and good)
Yeah, if only the sub bass is boosted there will be no spilling into the mids, the KP is a perfect example of that
You will be pleased if You like your half-modded IT01 But wait for sales. I got them for ~126€ and they even passed customs without any extra cost ;PIf that’s the case, I might just have to check the KP out!
That’s fair.
I hope the people that bought one do enjoy it. If not for anything else other than the upgraded cable.
Me personally, I thought the treble in the T2 was perfectly fine. It was the low end that could have used some tweaking, not the treble. So I’m going to stay off the hype train at this time.
But like I said, I’m sure the T3 will be liked by people. There certainly are a lot of them being sold at the moment.
You can reduce treble in two ways:No idea which thread to post this in so I'll post it here:
Ok, so I measured the T3 on EARS and Dayton and the compensated curve looks close enough so I’ll just post the EARS Diffuse Field target vs the T2 and T2 Pro shown below:
(Diffuse Field based on Etymotics ER4SR -- straight line = considered DF neutral)
Fit:
A little weird since they want you to wear it over-ears now with the cable type. Stock foams dont work for me. Works fine with SpinFit CP145 or the blue/red foamies I have that many people have shown photos of.
Sound & Music:
This is a real-time rambling for 30 minutes of listening. No burn-in, if you believe in that. Just straight out of my Monolith THX-AAA amp using stock cable.
I think if you like the signature of the T2, you’ll like the T3. It drops the treble and the bass response seems more apparent and fuller given the lower treble response. In general, they sound similar enough except for the lower treble, which is now controlled by a BA and not the DD.
It’s still a brighter IEM, but not as bright as the T2 Pro.
Some sibilance in “Teardrop” and Liz Fraser vocals in the massive attack song. Bass sounds much better than T2/Pro.
“Unfinished Symphony” - the intro hits hard now with better rumble.
“You and Tequila” - Kenny Chesney’s voice sounds really nice. More fuller than previous iterations. Guitars sound slightly harsh but doesnt bother me too much. (see CL2 for what bothers me)
“Miles Away” - Krysta Nicks - strings sound nice and detailed. Voice is a little harsh and a tad sibilant.
“Pearl Lakes” - U137 - Sounds good to me. No vocals, so no sibilance/harsh vocal issues. Fuller sound than previous.