CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
Jul 28, 2020 at 10:41 AM Post #25,291 of 31,833
Slater scared me away from getting a multimeter since soldered some stuff to use with it.

If you’re just looking for general ballpark measurements, a basic multimeter will do. I was telling you about super accurate milliohm meters.
 
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Jul 28, 2020 at 10:43 AM Post #25,292 of 31,833
Such a shame that the TRN T3 cables arent available with 4,4mm I would have gotten a few of them otherwise.

What about a 2.5mm to 4.4mm adapter?
 
Jul 28, 2020 at 10:43 AM Post #25,293 of 31,833
maybe its your other cables that have more impedance and they are the ones that change your sound? Then when you go to the T3 you hear the "true" sound?
Exactly
 
Jul 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM Post #25,294 of 31,833
What about a 2.5mm to 4.4mm adapter?
Have you performed a subjective listening test comparison btw the T3 and the NiceHCK Litz? I hope to get my NiceHCK silver cables soon.
 
Jul 28, 2020 at 10:45 AM Post #25,295 of 31,833
If you’re just looking for general ballpark measurements, a basic multimeter will do. I was telling you about super accurate milliohm meters.
oh that changes things :joy:

Are there any recommendations when it comes to multimeters? I see multimeters varying in price from like 20 usd to 680 usd!

What about a 2.5mm to 4.4mm adapter?
I dislike using adapters and 2,5mm plugs are so very tiny! Makes me afraid of snapping them off. :smirk:
(also dont have a 2,5mm port in my ibasso dx160 lol)
 
Jul 28, 2020 at 11:07 AM Post #25,296 of 31,833
Very nice comparison, thank you!
(I stopped following this thread)

While I get 0.3 Ohm for TRN 3, my measurements for NiceHCK Litz is 0.5-0.6 Ohm for 3 contacts and 0.6-0.7 Ohm for the 4-th.
Within high relative error (ca. 0.15 Ohm), it can be 0.7-0.8 Ohm, but I am happy with these values, since they are within the range of several of 16-core cables; and less than 1/16 even for 12-Ohm IEMs.

I do like aesthetics and the fit of NiceHCK litz much more, compared to TRN 3 and the fit with CCA CA16 seems nice :)

(I actually ordered another cable for more brutal match but sadly, this cabke is still on its way for more than 2 month... while NiceHCK came under two weeks!)
 
Jul 28, 2020 at 11:19 AM Post #25,297 of 31,833
Very nice comparison, thank you!
(I stopped following this thread)

While I get 0.3 Ohm for TRN 3, my measurements for NiceHCK Litz is 0.5-0.6 Ohm for 3 contacts and 0.6-0.7 Ohm for the 4-th.
Within high relative error (ca. 0.15 Ohm), it can be 0.7-0.8 Ohm, but I am happy with these values, since they are within the range of several of 16-core cables; and less than 1/16 even for 12-Ohm IEMs.

I do like aesthetics and the fit of NiceHCK litz much more, compared to TRN 3 and the fit with CCA CA16 seems nice :)

(I actually ordered another cable for more brutal match but sadly, this cabke is still on its way for more than 2 month... while NiceHCK came under two weeks!)
I bought the NiceHCK Litz for the qdc and NX7 connectors. How important is the # of cores, if the # of strands in total were to remain the same?
 
Jul 28, 2020 at 11:20 AM Post #25,298 of 31,833
Have you performed a subjective listening test comparison btw the T3 and the NiceHCK Litz?

I don’t really go down that road. It’s too polarizing of a topic.

I try to get cables that are well made, as low resistance as possible, tangle resistant, fit good, little to no microphonics, and look nice.

Whether they make a difference in the sound is best left up to each individual person, because no one in the world hears as good as you do!
 
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Jul 28, 2020 at 11:23 AM Post #25,299 of 31,833
Jul 28, 2020 at 11:35 AM Post #25,300 of 31,833
oh that changes things :joy:

Are there any recommendations when it comes to multimeters? I see multimeters varying in price from like 20 usd to 680 usd!


I dislike using adapters and 2,5mm plugs are so very tiny! Makes me afraid of snapping them off. :smirk:
(also dont have a 2,5mm port in my ibasso dx160 lol)

Getting a multimeter for this hobby is almost a must - checking polarity, making sure that your cable resistivity is at the right ball park, etc.
I bought the NiceHCK Litz for the qdc and NX7 connectors. How important is the # of cores, if the # of strands in total were to remain the same?
It depends on the wire thickness/gauge. Some prefer good 4 cores of thick gauge, some 8 cores (these types can be the best for the lowest resistance given less wire insulation overall).

I do like 16 cores - they are quite thick and flexible, and measure OK.
I am guilty of buying a lot of different cables, but not guilty of buying any $25+ ones. I never could hear any sonic differences between good (low resistance) cables, but I can easily imagine such a difference, and it makes my listening experience more fun :) :)
 
Jul 30, 2020 at 8:54 AM Post #25,301 of 31,833
Just arrived:
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Jul 31, 2020 at 1:17 PM Post #25,303 of 31,833
I've never heard the ZS5, but the V90 is a fun V shaped IEM, without being TOO V shaped.
 
Jul 31, 2020 at 1:43 PM Post #25,304 of 31,833
I haven't heard the ZS5 either but I've had the V90 since Dec '19 and it is a good IEM. Being that it's TRN though you may or may not get one that works correctly. electro mod recently reviewed it on youtube and he described his version as "dark", which it is the complete opposite of. It's V-shaped like Tonymac136 said. You'll definitely hear the highs (and the peak @ 8 KHz) along with the deep bass. Parts of the mids are somewhat recessed. It's pretty good for rock/rap/edm though, if you're into those genres.

edited post, just listened to again and changed a few observations
 
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