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Campfire - Solaris

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  1. cr3ativ3
    I was talking about this new ++ version :)
     
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  3. subguy812
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  5. Wildcatsare1
    Pick up the Symbios, they are made in Europe, I have small ear canals and the small Symbio are perfect. They have a gel outer sleeve and inner foam care.
     
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  7. cr3ativ3
    I have symbios w in M and L .
    But the spirals with the foam of the symbios sounds better for me :)
     
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  8. mark88888
    Very well written review. I am curious, which IEMs are you currently using (or other) do you prefer or feel are better overall than the Solaris, and why? If any?
     
  9. BananaOoyoo
    Ha, I wouldn't call it a review - I think it barely classifies as first impressions :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

    The four IEMs that I am currently using are the Jomo Samba, Campfire Andromeda, Hidition Viento-Reference, and Sony MDR-EX1000.
    As for better overall... right now, I'm looking to add a TOTL hybrid IEM to the mix. Solaris would be competing against IEMs like the Jomo Trinity, EE Legend X, Sony IER-Z1R, Noble Khan, 64 Tia Trio, and Hyla TE-5T/B (as well as other new/upcoming IEMs like the VE Elysium, EE Wraith, Oriolus Percivali, and whatever new product 64audio is cooking up right now for this month, depending on their prices). I didn't have a chance to compare these side by side, so I couldn't tell you where Solaris would fall in the pecking order.
     
  10. mark88888
    Thanks for your reply. Id love to hear your estimation of where they might fall in the pecking order regardless of the lack of side by side listening session ... but anyway that is helpful. I keep reading about the mids, I wonder what iem might retain the nice rumble and clarity of the bass, the distinct but not sibilant treble, but be better in the mids.
     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2019
  11. candlejack
    The more time I spend on HF, the more I think it is a nice place to find out about new gear and talk about it, but not a good place to base a buying decision on.

    I can't endorse the Solaris because I didn't choose it myself, but I strongly suggest you don't dismiss it based on other people's opinions. If you have the chance, give it a listen. This applies to everything, not just the Solaris. (well, actually I could name a few headphones I wouldn't encourage people to waste audition time on, but that's a different story... :p )
     
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  12. BananaOoyoo
    +1

    I'm always saying to take impressions & reviews, both positive and negative, with a huge pile of salt. It's why I insisted on trying out the Solaris for myself.
    Nobody can tell you what sounds good to you, and as I noted in my impressions, even though I don't think I'll end up getting one myself, the Solaris most certainly belongs in the conversation with other great IEMs.
    (Like @candlejack, I will tell you to avoid something if it's a hot mess though... say, something like the Shozy Pola.)
     
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  13. davidmolliere
    I have a different opinion on the values of reviews, as it just plain made it possible to purchase blind IEMs I couldn’t audition based on reviewers I trust and I was never disappointed... you can say it’s confirmation bias and maybe it is, who knows. All I know is that it works for me because I know the reviewer’s frame of reference, a review is always relative to the person who writes it. It becomes suspicious if it refers to an absolute truth as far as I am concerned... especially when ranking is involved that doesn’t explicitly discloses the criterias for said ranking (which.... make it relative, again).

    I guess it all depends on what you expect from reviews, if you expect some kind of « truth » then it will never work for you.

    If you expect an honest, detailed and qualitative expression of a point of view and you get to confirm it with auditions you get reference points along time then it becomes very reliable. I happened to purchase the same IEMs as some reviewers (some of them way before they got renowned there on headfi), when they posted and reviewed, it felt like someone expressed what I was unable to put into words so very accurately. Of course, your mileage may vary and you might tune in with different reviewers I find highly reliable but that’s the beauty of relativity.

    Beyond technical fundamentals and performance that are required, most of the magic of an IEM is its tuning and you liking it is very influenced by personal preferences.
    That’s why I’ll never adhere to so called objective aka « I own the truth » comparisons.
     
  14. beholdclarity
    Alright, alright, alright!

    Since I am going to be setting my Solaris up against the Legend X in the next days, I thought it wise to keep my memory fresh regarding the other contender, the VE8. That's why I took another approach at the Vision Ears Flagship (until the Elysium, that is): Another day, another playlist.
    Here's my update in regards to the VE8 on its own, without A/B testing against Solaris (my singular IEM).

    Technical details

    Driver tech: 8 BA Setup, in three ways, 2 lows, 2 mids, 4 highs
    Cable: Very standard, nothing fancy, quite pliable, straight 3.5mm termination
    Playlist: Selection of Michael Jackson, Fleetwood Mac contrasted with Progressive Metal and EDM. Mostly female or high-pitched vocals
    Equipment: SP1000Cu at Volume level 60 (lower end of my usual listening volume)

    The Lows:

    The VE8 has quite a substantial and deep bass, with good rumble. I find it lacks vibration and does not reverberate enough to compete with DD offerings, but still. The bass is black and deep and might satisfy those who are accustomed to BA bass. The control of the bass is very good; it's not clinical or sterile but affects the mids only minimally. I do like bass guitars and like to imagine hearing the string vibrating, which I am missing with the VE8. This is unlike the acoustic guitar, which is portrayed superbly on the VE8. You can make out each individual pluck with clarity and intent.
    Detail in other spectrums are never overshadowed by the bass and make for a rich detailed experience.

    The mids:

    I think the VE8 has a neutral-warm tuning that only appears dry and bright when compared to a very coloured IEM like the Solaris. The presentation is quite pleasant with incredible detail and energy. This, I presume, is the reason why the VE8 gets portrayed as "musical". It makes ya foot tap without ya knowin'.

    The highs:

    Effortless and magical. Nothing left to be desired; not sharp, not mushed, fast and energetic. The highs are so detailed and crisp, but smooth, that high-pitched details like plucks in the strings or particular elements in vocals that were previously hidden in the relatively organic/ lush Solaris are now revealed to me.


    Recommendation:

    This write-up wants to at least create a little value for those who came here looking for information on the Solaris. So I would like to come back full circle. Choosing between the Solaris and the VE8 is not easy, which is a testament to the technical prowess of the Solaris with a reasonable price tag.
    The choice should be between these factors:

    • Custom or universal. Each is available only as one option
    • Price. The VE8 is significantly more expensive
    • Tuning. Both are remarkable at what they do. Are you looking for a well balanced visceral bass (not in bass-head terms) with a very relaxed and smooth presentation on the warm side? Go for the Solaris. Do you prefer a well done BA bass and need more energy in the mids and highs with better PRaT? Go with the VE8
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2019
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  15. mark88888
    "I'm always saying to take impressions & reviews, both positive and negative, with a huge pile of salt. It's why I insisted on trying out the Solaris for myself.
    Nobody can tell you what sounds good to you, and as I noted in my impressions, even though I don't think I'll end up getting one myself, the Solaris most certainly belongs in the conversation with other great IEMs.
    (Like @candlejack, I will tell you to avoid something if it's a hot mess though... say, something like the Shozy Pola.)"

    I agree, and In fact I have listened to them. I thought they sounded very good but Id also like to try out some others to compare, and so I think my question is a fair one. Is there an IEM with a similar sound sig in the treble and bass but improved (and of course thats understood to be subjective, so yes Im curious about personal opinions here) mids? I like a neutral sound, not overwhelming bass or sibilant treble.
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2019
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