Symbios too bright >.<I tried my Spiral dots and W symbios. I like my Symbios better on the Solaris. Seems to focus the sound better than a wider bored tip.
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Campfire - Solaris
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Could be. Not done messing with tips but I think it will also depend on your source too. I liked what I heard with them. With no foam in them of course.
@davidmolliere, I finally read your review on the Solaris and thanks for writing it up. Good job. I find your take on the soundstage comparing the Solaris to the LCD4i interesting as you were saying the LCD4i is a bit larger than the Solaris. Couple of years ago I had the opportunity to buy the last pair of Final’s Lab2 in the US as they were limited Edition. The Lab2 is a single DD driver much like the Atlas but with a 12mm DD driver and upon initial listening to the LCD4i I immediately notice one characteristic difference in terms of soundstaging between the two. The LCD4i soundstage on comparison although large but seems to have an invisible limitation or wall. I notice with the LCD4i sound will travel and promulgate but up to a certain distance will stop and dies off as if it runs into an invisible wall both in width, depth and height creating or defining a sense of space. The Lab2 on the contrary sound will travel in all directions without limitation and will naturally fade out regardless of distance creating a sense of openness almost like an out door concert whereas the LCD4i although large but you are always cognizant of the size of the stage or the fact that there is a stage. Ever since noticing that experience I always pay attention to that characteristic in headphone and I find headphones with an invisible sound stage constricting. I have yet to receive my Solaris but I am curious as to the quality of the soundstage with the Solaris.
I can't wait for your impression...what you describe is what I would desire in an IEM.Coming back to Solaris, when I heard these words “holographic, life like, and imaging” in describing the Solaris sound, I reacted with excitement because these are no small orders to achieve these characteristics in headphone let alone in iems. Let me share an experience of how I got into HiFi to make my point. Many years ago I was at a high end stereo store in a hifi room with the Wilson Watt Puppy speakers and Mark Levinson systems and the sales person was going to demonstrate the system to me. I was looking around at some equipments or cables with the speakers behind me. The sales person played “I can see clearly now” by Holy Cole Trio. Unique to that song is that there is no music introduction and Holly Cole will just start singing. I was just looking around and all of a sudden I heard this person singing behind me like a life person singing. I still remember I was startled and jumped around to discover that it was a CD playing. But that holographic sound image, that sense of life like person with full body was burned into my auditory memory to this day. As two channels audiophiles know these are the life like experiences they chase after in the two channels domain to the point people spent millions of dollars just to create that experience in a room. I only hope that the Solaris can achieve a small portion of that feast as advertised by Campfire and reported in some of these discussions with Ah Ha moments then I will feel the money is well spent. If it can do more than that, then the Solaris deserves the word “miracle” as described by some.
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Coming back to Solaris, when I heard these words “holographic, life like, and imaging” in describing the Solaris sound, I reacted with excitement because these are no small orders to achieve these characteristics in headphone let alone in iems. Let me share an experience of how I got into HiFi to make my point. Many years ago I was at a high end stereo store in a hifi room with the Wilson Watt Puppy speakers and Mark Levinson systems and the sales person was going to demonstrate the system to me. I was looking around at some equipments or cables with the speakers behind me. The sales person played “I can see clearly now” by Holy Cole Trio. Unique to that song is that there is no music introduction and Holly Cole will just start singing. I was just looking around and all of a sudden I heard this person singing behind me like a life person singing. I still remember I was startled and jumped around to discover that it was a CD playing. But that holographic sound image, that sense of life like person with full body was burned into my auditory memory to this day. As two channels audiophiles know these are the life like experiences they chase after in the two channels domain to the point people spent millions of dollars just to create that experience in a room. I only hope that the Solaris can achieve a small portion of that feast as advertised by Campfire and reported in some of these discussions with Ah Ha moments then I will feel the money is well spent. If it can do more than that, then the Solaris deserves the word “miracle” as described by some.
I love Wilson speakers. I might upgrade homes and if I do, I really would want a 2 channel listening room and Wilson would be my first choice in speakers. I also would want a AV room as well and a home office (first priority). I don't have kids so if I were to have a 5 bedroom home built, I could have it designed to really be 3 bedrooms and have a home office and either a listening room or a small AV room. I doubt my girlfriend would let me have all 3 rooms.
@FangJoker The most undecided man on headfi, so many options, but there is always a doubt
FangJoker
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@FangJoker The most undecided man on headfi, so many options, but there is always a doubt
Nah I got a list of 6 IEMs and I'll buy at least half of them. A12t, Trio/Z1R, and SE6/VE8/N8/A18 tzar are my targets unless there's new IEMs hitting the market, but I think I'm going to pass on the solaris (I don't think it pairs well with my gear and the jvc which I don't trust 100%). I'll buy the A12t and the Trio or VE8 next week although if 64 Audio has a 20% black friday sale like they did last year, the A18 tzar would have the best discount. Ok maybe I am undecided. But I'm buying something for sure. I got my impressions done and I just got paid on two closings so I got some cash burning in my pocket. That hugo TT2 with m scaler sounds amazing too, but I don't know if any IEMs could take advantage of it.
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@FangJoker after you acquired all these gears please let me know I like to come and listen to them.
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@FangJoker after you acquired all these gears please let me know I like to come and listen to them.
I plan of getting more CIEMs than universals because of fit and itch issues I've had lately so if i get any universal, it might only be one. And no you can't stay with me. You can get a room on the strip if you want.
Now official! Symbio Mandarine Peels
I love my peeled Mandarines.
I've asked the seller, expect to be between 2k to 2.3k aud. Currently Jaben Sg is selling them for 2000 Sg which is 2005 aud, so it shouldn't be too far from that price.
But again the local distributor has a habit of. ...
Import duties were AUD$385 for me. It will be interesting to see what local pricing ends up being...
Man the Solaris have seriously changed my viewpoint of what IEMs can sound like. Before Solaris I always thought I had to make compromises with them, it was simply impossible to get TOTL sound in the realm of what a high end headphone can give you in a portable ecosystem. The Solaris changes everything. These monitors can give you sound you'd be hard pressed to find even with a $2k+ headphone rig.
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Same, added on top of poor Aussie dollar, ended up been 2680 aud, which is much more than the 2000 sgd Jaben selling it for.Import duties were AUD$385 for me. It will be interesting to see what local pricing ends up being...
Go NAFTA! (USMCA lol). Around CAD2000 + taxes for us.
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1,395 GBP for UK which is about 1,780 USD. I could directly import them but with customs it only works out slightly cheaper
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