Calling All "Vintage" Integrated/Receiver Owners
Jan 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM Post #11,566 of 19,142
Yes, I love the fact it's a paid membership. And it's cheap enough for anyone to join, and just enough to keep poachers out. And best of all, they are people like us and much of the gear listed has already at least been serviced. With a good bit of them being restored, and not the misleading restored you see on ebay. Restored on ebay most of the time means, cleaned and bias/dc offset adjusted. Nothing has actually been replaced.
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 5:59 PM Post #11,567 of 19,142
if you dont mind, how much is the membership price on AK?
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM Post #11,569 of 19,142
thanks matt
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 6:59 PM Post #11,570 of 19,142
My biggest problem with BarterTown is I could seriously buy a ton of stuff there I really don't need :D
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 7:27 PM Post #11,571 of 19,142
do they have other stuff besides receivers?
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 8:40 PM Post #11,573 of 19,142
  do they have other stuff besides receivers?


Yep, anything and everything audio including media.  Very good place to find vinyl and CD's. 
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 9:21 PM Post #11,574 of 19,142
Seeing these crazy high prices for the higher end Pioneer models makes me very happy with the little SX-750 that I got for only $40 in great shape. This thing does great with my Q701 and with my new near field speaker setup. I really have no need for any more power than what I currently have. This current setup, I put together with the idea of it being a great little budget system used for low to moderate volume. It does just that and will still get louder than I'll ever need at the 9-10 o'clock spot on the volume knob. If I was using big speakers with low sensitivity in a setup that wasn't near field and I wanted high SPL, then it may be a different story I suppose. 
 
Can anybody really say that an SX-1250 is going to sound better with headphones than an SX-750 assuming both models were up to spec? I'm not talking about tuners or phono inputs either, since I have heard the higher end models also have better phono inputs and better tuners. I'm talking about using the same source plugged into the aux input on either, with the volume matched of course. I'd say having 160 wpc on tap compared to 50 wpc on tap would make no audible difference with headphones when the headphone would never ever even see a full watt. Anybody disagree? Can anybody compare the two?
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 10:03 PM Post #11,575 of 19,142
^^ I'm not the technical expert here for sure. I mostly gauge sound quality by ear tbh. I'd call myself a Pioneer guy. I've owned 7 of them now. The quality of the receiver make a pretty big jump from the 850 to the 950...then a more modest one from the 950 to the 1050 where you're at TOTL quality in my estimation. 
 
So my guess is that you'd see a pretty clear and appreciable improvement moving from your sx750 to say, an sx1050. My 2c...
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 10:06 PM Post #11,576 of 19,142
Same here with Senns HD800 plenty of slam and with good recordings great sound using Burson Conductor's Dac .and also Kef's104  9 o'clock is plenty loud for me .
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 11:05 PM Post #11,577 of 19,142
  ^^ I'm not the technical expert here for sure. I mostly gauge sound quality by ear tbh. I'd call myself a Pioneer guy. I've owned 7 of them now. The quality of the receiver make a pretty big jump from the 850 to the 950...then a more modest one from the 950 to the 1050 where you're at TOTL quality in my estimation. 
 
So my guess is that you'd see a pretty clear and appreciable improvement moving from your sx750 to say, an sx1050. My 2c...

I've read posts over at audiokarma.org where people say that if you don't need the extra power than the SX-750 is plenty. I've also read people say that the biggest differences are in the tuner and the phono stage. I'm not using the phono input or the tuner, and the power of the SX-750 is plenty for what I am using it for. If I'm only listening in the 65-85 db range with moderately sensitive speakers at a distance of about 3 and a half to 4 feet I doubt going from about 50 watts per channel to 160 watts per channel is going to benefit me any. If these speakers have a sensitivity of 86db at 1 meter with 1 watt than I'm most likely not using much over maybe 4 watts per channel RMS. I'm sure there are short bursts here or there when I'm getting into the double digits, but overall I don't think I'm pushing it too hard.  
 
Jan 29, 2014 at 11:24 PM Post #11,578 of 19,142

 

 

 

 


 

 
 
Very happy with the results so far.  Still need to redo the veneer on the case.  Thinking I may try real wood veneer instead of the factory vinyl veneer.  
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Jan 30, 2014 at 12:36 AM Post #11,579 of 19,142
Is the BarterTown membership a one-time $25, or do you have to pay it again every once in awhile? I remember looking into it a long time ago, but I can't recall now what the deal was.
 
There's a couple shops that advertise drool-worthy vintage gear on the local CL all the time, but they're all stacked in the back of a room unrestored somewhere in Louisiana and I'm not going to drive that far for an unserviced unit unless it's something truly special. However, there's one guy who seems to be a personal collector and has been constantly placing ads selling silverface stuff, and it looks like he has dozens of receivers. His ads are very vague and often advertise without naming the price of any specific piece, but I know for a fact that he has a bunch of speakers and a restored 9090DB at the very least. His most detailed ad claimed that he's moving out and has 37 years worth of stuff to sell. If anyone wants the name and number of the guy, PM me.
 
Also, what in the world is an SX2500 worth?
 
Jan 30, 2014 at 5:27 AM Post #11,580 of 19,142
From my experience, using AUX IN, there is a big difference in the sonic presentation between my SX-650 and SX-D7000. The latter sounds more refined even with headphones (35wpc I think vs 120wpc).
 

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