[palmfish]

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Are there any sound quality difference for a can in different volume levels? (Some Akers claim that some speakers sound good at low level, but I think speakers are more space depending.)

Humans perceive different frequencies that are the same loudness to be different volumes. That didn't come out clearly...
 
For example, if you play a 4000 Hz tone and a 40 Hz tone both at 80dB, the 4000 Hz tone will be perceived as being louder.
 
This is why bass sounds better when music is played loud, and the bass seems to disappear when music is quiet. It's also why so many people are damaging their hearing today...

 

[Skylab]

 
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You really like neutral sound! How do you compare SX-1010 to your Marantz (2285?)?  I know you like your Marantz also. What's difference between these two warm sound receivers to you?
 

The Marantz is indeed quite warm.  Maybe even warmer than the SX-1010.  But it has a very musical nature.  I like the 2285, the SX-1010, and the Sansui 9090DB all about equally, and I like the SX-1250 just a little more, and the SX-1980 best of all.
 
 

 

[moodyrn]

Hmm, I'm wondering if the replacement caps are coloring the sound. Warm is the last word I would use to describe the 1010 I had. I found it to be a shade warmer than neutral. But much closer to being classified as neutral than warm. It was nothing like my marantz and not even as warm as the kenwood 9600 I had which was just a little warm as well. It actually was a little analytical with my he-6.

 

[Meewoo]

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With closed headphones there are, but from my experience its not that noticeable.

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Humans perceive different frequencies that are the same loudness to be different volumes. That didn't come out clearly...
 
For example, if you play a 4000 Hz tone and a 40 Hz tone both at 80dB, the 4000 Hz tone will be perceived as being louder.
 
This is why bass sounds better when music is played loud, and the bass seems to disappear when music is quiet. It's also why so many people are damaging their hearing today...

That's good to know! Well, I will stick to my listening level. I don't want to damage my hearing just for bass.

 

 
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The Marantz is indeed quite warm.  Maybe even warmer than the SX-1010.  But it has a very musical nature.  I like the 2285, the SX-1010, and the Sansui 9090DB all about equally, and I like the SX-1250 just a little more, and the SX-1980 best of all.
 
 

That's what I call a Pioneer fanboy!!

 
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Hmm, I'm wondering if the replacement caps are coloring the sound. Warm is the last word I would use to describe the 1010 I had. I found it to be a shade warmer than neutral. But much closer to being classified as neutral than warm. It was nothing like my marantz and not even as warm as the kenwood 9600 I had which was just a little warm as well. It actually was a little analytical with my he-6.

Yes, I will agree with you mostly . Skylab is talking warm comparing to 1250 and 1980. IMHO, the typical brand list form warm to neutral is: Marantz=or >HK>Sansui=or>Kenwood>Pioneer=Yamaha (as same time lines). Of course, early models are warmer than late model as same brand. Yamaha seems no change in models. I just don't know why Kenwood is not hunted by member here, they sound damn good!!
 
 

 

[palmfish]

With output impedance ratings that are all over the map, I'm amazed that anyone can make consistent observations.
 
Matching one of these beasts with a modern headphone and getting predictable results (satisfactory results would be too much to hope for) must involve some degree of mystical arcana and blind luck.
 
On the bright side, they do look bitchin !  

 

[moodyrn]

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Yes, I will agree with you mostly . Skylab is talking warm comparing to 1250 and 1980. IMHO, the typical brand list form warm to neutral is: Marantz=or >HK>Sansui=or>Kenwood>Pioneer=Yamaha (as same time lines). Of course, early models are warmer than late model as same brand. Yamaha seems no change in models. I just don't know why Kenwood is not hunted by member here, they sound damn good!!
 
 

Pretty much follow my experience with the vintage gear I've owned. My sansui is warm, but not as warm as the  marantz. But much warmer than the kenwood which was slightly warmer than the 1010. But even with using the modern amps I've own or heard, I would still say the 1010 I had was much closer to neutral than warm. It's even bright sounding compared to some of the modern headphone and speaker amps I've listened to. But mine was stock and a lightly used mint piece. So I could see the sound changing with a recap.
 
I would have liked a little more warmness from mine which ultimately was one of the reasons I got rid of it. So I might prefer the one Skylab has to the one I had(if they do indeed sound different, but maybe not). But still a great sounding receiver and one of my favorites. Well I could say that about all of them. As different as they all sounded the one thing they all had in common was great sound. I've just been having so much fun going from one to the other and finding some really good gems along the way. I could never afford to go through as many modern amps as I have with these.
 

 

[Skylab]

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Yes, I will agree with you mostly . Skylab is talking warm comparing to 1250 and 1980. IMHO, the typical brand list form warm to neutral is: Marantz=or >HK>Sansui=or>Kenwood>Pioneer=Yamaha (as same time lines). Of course, early models are warmer than late model as same brand. Yamaha seems no change in models. I just don't know why Kenwood is not hunted by member here, they sound damn good!!
 
 

Right!  I agree with that.  Of my own receivers, from warm to neutral:  Marantz 2285 > Sansui 9090DB > Pioneer SX-1010 > SX1250 = SX-1980
 

 

[Rawrbington]

my pioneer is starting to cut out on the left channel.
it gets quiet and staticy.
at first it was only if using the aux input.
but now its with the tape in as well.
 
where would one start to research or find info about what could be wrong?

 

[Skylab]

You need to deoxit all the switches and pots.  It's hopefully just that.

 

[manveru]

I had the exact same thing happening on my Sansui. Deoxit seemed to fix it right up.

 

[Rawrbington]

the one pot or switch i suspected was the actual power on/speaker selector pot.
it gets scratchy when switcher from speaker a to speaker b to a+b to off.
 

 

[Skylab]

Power off, unplug, wait overnight, and then open it up, spray deoxit, and work each control multiple times immediately upon spraying it.  Then move on to the next one.

 

[Rawrbington]

does a place like Ace or home depot carry deoxit?
or would i be better off just ordering it online?

 

[Meewoo]

Online. Cheapest local one is from Musician's friend.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-D5S-6-Deoxit-Contact-Cleaner/dp/B00006LVEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328130215&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/CAIG-DeOxIT-Liquid-Needle-Applicator/dp/B0000YH6F8/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1328130215&sr=8-10
 

 

[randerson07]

Radioshack carries it as well, much smaller container.
 
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2104746
 
They carry it in store if you dont feel like ordering it.