[Sinty]

The 650 has an issue with deepness and veiled sound.  It's a different experience.  People say its great for rock but again I keep going back to the 600s and 485s.
 
I think if you can afford the hd650, you can do better in something like the Grado RS series or the ATH-ESW10. All are like 400-500$ or something like that. I think the 650 is geared more towards a great jazz and classical experience due to the deep and rich factor.  I think the RS series in grado are made and tailored for great rock experiences, as well as the Esw10 from Audio technica.  
 
the 485 is the best budget rocker can i can think of and that ive used, next would be the HD600.  After that it just gets really REALLY expensive in the Grado RS series and the ATH esw10.
 

 

[Nibor]

Superb, thanks for the tips

 

[dub Beatz]

Wow, you're really going for gold here. Most new head-fi'ers don't go straight for the cans you're suggesting lol. HD650 as your first pair? Holy lord! I wish I could have afforded some 650's when I started. I got stuck buying AD700s, DJ1 Pros and DT770/80

 

[Mr Joboto]

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Maybe Alessandro MS Pro? it's definitely give amazing midrange, smooth, detail + fun sounding. 
 
But I think DT770/80 still has more bass than MS Pro...
 

yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes this

 

[dub Beatz]

MS PROS FOR FIRST PAIR OF AUDIOPHILE HEADPHONES? GOOD LORD!

 

[Mr Joboto]

I know a few people who bought the Pros for their first headphones

 

[dub Beatz]

Maybe they can send some $ my way... lol

 

[Nibor]

I just put in a bid for a pair of HD600 and i decided to upgrade my cd player before buying something as expensive as the Alessandro MS Pro. Tho it is tempting

 

[PabloDiner]

its like giving your 16 year old a Maserati for his birthday

 

[dub Beatz]

Where I live, this is a regular occurrence. Only difference is, three months later they've either totaled the car or died totaling the car.

 

[Nibor]

Hi again.
 
I have used the Sennheiser HD600 and Little Dot Mk III for a while now. But the sound was not right for me. It did not give me the punch and drive that i was looking for. I listen to a lot of rock and jazz/fusion and i need and want the music to make me stomp my foot So i have been doing a bit of reading around the web, and i think as Sinty stated above that Grado or the Alessandro phones would be great for my taste. I have sold of the Little Dot and Sennheisers to free up some cash. But what model would give me the most for my money? Would bying a lower level grado like the SR225i/125i and adding some J$ woodies give me sound at the level of Allesandro MS2/Grado RS2i? Or would it be best just to go for a Grado RS2i or Allesandro MS2? The only reason why i am asking is that the Allesandro MS2/325i was a bit uncomfortable on my head and the MS2 is a bit pricy.
 
Thanks