Sep 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM Post #3,781 of 4,488
  T90 is still serving me very well.  Extremely transparent, and scales like a monster.

Sure, since I re-discovered the T90, I like it a lot! Since I have a balanced headphone amp, I'd like a headphone that is balanced. And I do not see a simple way of balancing the T90. This might very well be my clumsiness. As far as I know, Woo Audio does headphone modifications, but I might just as well buy the T1 second generation, that allows third party cables for balanced operation.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 10:29 AM Post #3,782 of 4,488
  Sure, since I re-discovered the T90, I like it a lot! Since I have a balanced headphone amp, I'd like a headphone that is balanced. And I do not see a simple way of balancing the T90. This might very well be my clumsiness. As far as I know, Woo Audio does headphone modifications, but I might just as well buy the T1 second generation, that allows third party cables for balanced operation.

 
Forza Audioworks does headphone mods and recabling - seems you reside in Switzerland so sending it over to Poland would probably be much faster as well as easier than handing them over to Woo in the US. Matt's asking price for both the mod and cable is very reasonable as well, he has pictures and experience recabling T1s, T5s, T90s, etc to balanced, I can attest his work is stellar. His turn around time is reasonable as well and he's a very pleasant guy to deal with.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 2:08 PM Post #3,783 of 4,488
   
Forza Audioworks does headphone mods and recabling - seems you reside in Switzerland so sending it over to Poland would probably be much faster as well as easier than handing them over to Woo in the US. Matt's asking price for both the mod and cable is very reasonable as well, he has pictures and experience recabling T1s, T5s, T90s, etc to balanced, I can attest his work is stellar. His turn around time is reasonable as well and he's a very pleasant guy to deal with.

Thanks, Vigrith, for the suggestion, super! I shall give it a try. Once re-cabled, I'll let you know how it sounds.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 3:32 PM Post #3,785 of 4,488
  Thanks, Vigrith, for the suggestion, super! I shall give it a try. Once re-cabled, I'll let you know how it sounds.

 
No problem, I'm sure he'll take good care of your headphones. I have the Jubilees too and I love them very dearly.
 
Has anyone upgraded the cable on a T90 and noticed a difference?

 
Sound-wise? I personally never look for those kinds of differences, my listening is anything but analytical so even if something does change I'm not actively accounting for it. Only reason I have is that Beyer's cables are pretty bad, both too long and annoying to handle (not as bad as Hifiman at least but close).
 
I like my cables to be soft (possibly fabric) and malleable à la Norne/FAW as well as tailored to my personal needs in terms of length and colours/looks in general. Plus they're not removable which tends to get on my nerves quite easily.
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 3:45 PM Post #3,786 of 4,488
   
No problem, I'm sure he'll take good care of your headphones. I have the Jubilees too and I love them very dearly.
 
 
Sound-wise? I personally never look for those kinds of differences, my listening is anything but analytical so even if something does change I'm not actively accounting for it. Only reason I have is that Beyer's cables are pretty bad, both too long and annoying to handle (not as bad as Hifiman at least but close).
 
I like my cables to be soft (possibly fabric) and malleable à la Norne/FAW as well as tailored to my personal needs in terms of length and colours/looks in general. Plus they're not removable which tends to get on my nerves quite easily.

Something that did occur to me as less optimal was the Beyerdynamic cable on the T90: it has the feel of cheap plastic and it certainly is too long. But that's just nitpicking. With respect to re-wiring: I do not know what to expect, but a very good headphone perhaps becomes even better? BTW just listening to some very good jazz and for this, the T90 is marvellous!
 
Sep 12, 2016 at 5:04 PM Post #3,787 of 4,488
Did anyone had managed to replace the head cushion on his own by any chance? Mine is flaking bad so i got me a new one from the nice UK distributor. But i've no idea hot to open the i-don't-know-how-to-call-it-so-i'll-just-show-in-a-pic parts:

There are these grooves which most likely are the opening mechanism:


But i had no success thus far poking inside with a screwdriver, and the plastic material is just effin delicate to mess around with, i reckon. If anyone has a service manual it would be very useful of course. I didn't find any on Beyer's manuals page:
https://europe.beyerdynamic.com/service/downloads/manuals.html

To follow-up on my query, thanks to some nice help from folks at forum-hifi.de which referred me to this very useful post I was able to open the end blocks and replace the cushion, but not entirely in satisfactory manner. Here's how it goes:
There are actually 2 tabs on the outer side of each cup, You unlock them pressing each in an outward direction and then pulling the headband simultaneously and the inner adjustment mechanism slides off (careful not to pull too hard or it'll pop out and get scattered around like it happend on my first try). And then it's pretty staightforward undressing the old and placing the new head cushion.
One thing that i don't get is what are the flaps on each end are for, as shown in the second pic. You can assume it's to hold the metal band in check so it won't slide off, but the band has holes in it for securing it to the adjustment mechanism and the cushion does not, so that's out of the question.
 
Another more pressing matter that i wasn't able to figure out is how to lock back again those plastic tabs on the adjustment mechanism so that the outer grey blocks remain secure and not start to slide off with any small amount of pressure, as it's currently the case in my pair.
 

 

 

 

 
Sep 12, 2016 at 11:55 PM Post #3,788 of 4,488
 
Sure, since I re-discovered the T90, I like it a lot! Since I have a balanced headphone amp, I'd like a headphone that is balanced. And I do not see a simple way of balancing the T90. This might very well be my clumsiness. As far as I know, Woo Audio does headphone modifications, but I might just as well buy the T1 second generation, that allows third party cables for balanced operation.

 
If you wanted to rewire them yourself it is not very hard and does not require expensive specialized tools( soldering iron, solder, wire, plug). Beyers are pretty simple to disassemble and work on.
 
Removing the old cable - You would have access to all the wires once you pop off the clip-ring behind the left earpad. From there desolder the wires and then pull the old cable back out the preexisting hole in the ear cup. The little seal/gromit where the old cable enters the ear cup was glued to the cable on my dt770 but it separated with a good tug(I backed the cable up and separated the gromit outside of the earcup just as a precaution so that it didn't send the headphones flying when it did separate). 
 
Assemble the new cable - You can go a million different ways with making your own cable. Some people buy wire that has all 4 wires already wrapped up and all you have to do is strip the ends and solder the plug on(fancy @ 12$/ft or functional @ 1.29$/ft). Others go all out and buy individual wires, sleeve them with paracord and braid them up in all sorts of crazy ways.
 
Attach the new - If you can fit the original gromit from the stock cable on it may save some time, be sure to put it on the cable before you solder. Match up the wires and solder the new ones on. Slide the gromit back in to place if it fits, if not you can use what ever material you have access to to fill the hole so it looks good from the outside. On the inside put a dab of hot glue where the wire feeds through the cup to hold it in place, you can use glue or blutack to seal any remaining gaps. 
 
thats about it... other tools that make it simpler are wire holder for soldering(helping hands), iron holder and a cheap multimeter to check your wires 
 
link to the cable gallery if you haven't checked it out
 
edit: added links
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 2:42 AM Post #3,789 of 4,488
   
If you wanted to rewire them yourself it is not very hard and does not require expensive specialized tools( soldering iron, solder, wire, plug). Beyers are pretty simple to disassemble and work on.
 
Removing the old cable - You would have access to all the wires once you pop off the clip-ring behind the left earpad. From there desolder the wires and then pull the old cable back out the preexisting hole in the ear cup. The little seal/gromit where the old cable enters the ear cup was glued to the cable on my dt770 but it separated with a good tug(I backed the cable up and separated the gromit outside of the earcup just as a precaution so that it didn't send the headphones flying when it did separate). 
 
Assemble the new cable - You can go a million different ways with making your own cable. Some people buy wire that has all 4 wires already wrapped up and all you have to do is strip the ends and solder the plug on. Others go all out and buy individual wires, sleeve them with paracord and braid them up in all sorts of crazy ways.
 
Attach the new - If you can fit the original gromit from the stock cable on it may save some time, be sure to put it on the cable before you solder. Match up the wires and solder the new ones on. Slide the gromit back in to place if it fits, if not you can use what ever material you have access to to fill the hole so it looks good from the outside. On the inside put a dab of hot glue where the wire feeds through the cup to hold it in place, you can use glue or blutack to seal any remaining gaps. 
 
thats about it... other tools that make it simpler are wire holder for soldering(helping hands) and a cheap multimeter to check your wires 
 
link to the cable gallery if you haven't checked it out

 
Thank so much for the great advice! This really is an extremely helpful forum with so many terrific inputs!
 
I'll definitely check the cable gallery and see if I have the nerve of doing it myself.
 
I'll keep you posted on my efforts to balance the T90.
 
Sep 13, 2016 at 11:40 AM Post #3,790 of 4,488
happy to help
 
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Sep 26, 2016 at 11:25 AM Post #3,791 of 4,488
I've had the T90 Jubilee for a couple days now ($350 was too good to pass up). My other headphones are the Audio-Technica AD-1000X and I've previously owned the DT880 pro. I even performed the mod where you remove the front foam and put it behind the driver. These are detail monsters! The extreme definition is like going from 1440p with the Audio-Technica to 4k with these. The DT880 was more like really good 1080p. And there is still plenty of room for improvement with the rest of my system. Currently using a Little Dot 1+ with upgraded op-amp and tubes. My dac is not used at the moment because of issues with my usb ports. The treble doesn't bother me but does give a sort of hyper color realism that is fantastic with most of the synthesized music I listen to. I wish there was a little bit more power in the extreme low end but otherwise the bass (and mids) are good too.
 
Sep 26, 2016 at 1:06 PM Post #3,792 of 4,488
Listening to this on my T90 right now. May only be youtube but bloody hell this is good! (I need a flac of this).
 

 
Sep 26, 2016 at 4:37 PM Post #3,793 of 4,488
The T90s pair incredibly well with powerful amps. You'll see that they do have a very quick bass full of details. With my ex-NFB29 the sinergy was awesome, Particularly with good recordings. Now waiting to be paired with a NOS-11... Let"s see how it scales with this end game dac/amp.

Cheers.

Enviado desde mi H1
 

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