[Allanmarcus]

well, beyerdynamic announced the new T5p Gen 2 (T5p.2 ?)
 
http://north-america.beyerdynamic.com/shop/hah/headphones-and-headsets/mobile-portable/t-5-p-2-gen.html
 
I don't see an MSRP, but I assume it will be the same as the T1, but who knows.
 
T5p Gen 2 impressions thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/793892/beyerdynamic-t5p-generation-2-impressions-thread

 

[NZtechfreak]

Looks like no removable cable, but disappointing that. They have angled the cable exit from the cups a little, and finally providing a very case for their portable can, so some nice changes. Be interested to hear them, but I doubt they'll be able to stand up to my Ether C.

 

[Allanmarcus]

Looks like no removable cable, but disappointing that. They have angled the cable exit from the cups a little, and finally providing a very case for their portable can, so some nice changes. Be interested to hear them, but I doubt they'll be able to stand up to my Ether C.

Which headphones are you talking about? The T5p.2 has a removable cable, and can run fully balanced. 

 

[NZtechfreak]

Which headphones are you talking about? The T5p.2 has a removable cable, and can run fully balanced. 

Thanks for that, couldn't see that detail anywhere in the link above. Nice. Even more interested to hear them now.

 

[lofthanza]

anyone here who knows how these compare to the HD800?

I have had these for two weeks and they have been impressive.

The few problem i have with them however is that they lean a bit to the bright side for my liking, and the mids are a bit too forward (so slightly) and although the treble is so natural and detailed (amazing), it still gets harsh at times.

The bass with these is just spectacular.

I am looking for an open headphones and i am thinking of the HD800, just dont know how they compare to these.


thank u

 

[Arttt]

first of all , you need good amp with lots of juice to make t5p sound smooth, dynamic ...
with average gear t5p sound thin , almost no body in mids , sound is thin and treble can sound harsh ...
 
with an amp like beyerdynamic A1 t5p sound thick smooth and very dynamic , on the dark side and kind of lush ...
Source is important 2 ...
 
Comparing t5p to hd800 is night and day , t5p is laidback headphone , darker sweeter sounding , works fine with all type of music...
it sounds pleasant 8 times of 10 , but never breath taking , hd800 sounds pleasant 2 times of 10 , but it can sound breath taking, it can give you chills / gusbumps on your skin ...
 
Now hd800 is even more bright sounding headphone with great treble , one of the best treble out there .... few headphones can match hd800 treble , imaging and detailing is exceptional , compared to t5p , hd800 takes it on the whole new level!
Sound is very realistic , pure high-end,  hd800 really  shows you the mood of music , brings out the energy of every instrument so effortless and so true to the sound and creates atmosphere of music around your ears.
 
The problem with hd800 is - its even more picky with amps and dacs, and to the music you choose to play...
if you don't plan to invest 2000-3000€ on amp/dac and good cables , don't bother with hd800...
if hd800 is used in system not on the same level as hd800 it will sound boring , thin , bright , hush , weak bass , annoying  fatigue treble ...
 
 
I recommend you listen to hd800 in a hifi local store in a high end setup before buying them , this headphone is not for everyone ...

 

[Arttt]

if you want a sweet sounding headphone , with lush mids and good bass , take a look at Audeze lcd-2

 

[lofthanza]

Thank you! Very helpful answer.

 

[ruthieandjohn]

first of all , you need good amp with lots of juice to make t5p sound smooth, dynamic ...
with average gear t5p sound thin , almost no body in mids , sound is thin and treble can sound harsh ...

with an amp like beyerdynamic A1 t5p sound thick smooth and very dynamic , on the dark side and kind of lush ...
Source is important 2 ...

Comparing t5p to hd800 is night and day , t5p is laidback headphone , darker sweeter sounding , works fine with all type of music...
it sounds pleasant 8 times of 10 , but never breath taking , hd800 sounds pleasant 2 times of 10 , but it can sound breath taking, it can give you chills / gusbumps on your skin ...

Now hd800 is even more bright sounding headphone with great treble , one of the best treble out there .... few headphones can match hd800 treble , imaging and detailing is exceptional , compared to t5p , hd800 takes it on the whole new level!
Sound is very realistic , pure high-end,  hd800 really  shows you the mood of music , brings out the energy of every instrument so effortless and so true to the sound and creates atmosphere of music around your ears.

The problem with hd800 is - its even more picky with amps and dacs, and to the music you choose to play...
if you don't plan to invest 2000-3000€ on amp/dac and good cables , don't bother with hd800...
if hd800 is used in system not on the same level as hd800 it will sound boring , thin , bright , hush , weak bass , annoying  fatigue treble ...


I recommend you listen to hd800 in a hifi local store in a high end setup before buying them , this headphone is not for everyone ...

What a WONDERFUL comparison of the HD800 to the T 5 p. I also have both and could not have said it better.

 

[TJ Max]

But does it make since to compare an open back headphone for home and studio use with a closed back headphone made for portable use? The fairest comparison would be the T5p vs the Momentum 2, and HD800 vs the T1.

 

[Arttt]

it does make sense, since the person who asked to compare those two indeed very different headphones , is not seeking advise about what is more suitable for portable use or in a main system at home.  Question was about Sound Character, and since this person owns t5p, its used as reference in order to get an idea what hd800 is.
 
I often read reviews, but words like " great bass "  or " amazing soundstage "  doesn't describe Sound Character much...
Only when i see a reviewer heard a headphone i have heard and what he describes is similar to what i hear , only then i continue to read direct comparison to other gear he write about.
 
If we don't use reference ( headphones we heard)  in order to describe headphone people haven't heard , it will be just words like "good separation"  " black background"  " airy"   but it won't mean much...
In other hand if the person heard t5p and says it sounds airy , i know whats " airy " is for that person , and can make sense of what he may say about a headphone i haven't heard ...
 
So it always makes sense to compare audio gear , if its about Sound Signature/Character.
 
 
P.s
i wouldn't call t5p portable anyway , i know beyerdynamic market t5p as portable headphone , but its far from it , in my opinion!
I use it in my home system only, outside it feels big and clumsy , i dislike the feel of ear pads moving when i walk and since t5p is very musical and engaging , you wanna pay attention to music, but when you outside you are distracted in many ways so its a tease and kind of pointless of having such a resolving / revealing headphone when you can't pay attention to it anyway.
 
I also think portable amps/dacs combos don't make t5p sing , simply not enough juice... drivers barely shaking , all sound thin and boring...

 

[evilaci]

  I often read reviews, but words like " great bass "  or " amazing soundstage "  doesn't describe Sound Character much...
Only when i see a reviewer heard a headphone i have heard and what he describes is similar to what i hear , only then i continue to read direct comparison to other gear he write about.
 
 

 
And therefore i´m already looking forward reading your description between the T5p and the 2. generation... 

 
OMG, Beyer is on fire....

 

[NNewman]

it does make sense, since the person who asked to compare those two indeed very different headphones , is not seeking advise about what is more suitable for portable use or in a main system at home.  Question was about Sound Character, and since this person owns t5p, its used as reference in order to get an idea what hd800 is.

I often read reviews, but words like " great bass "  or " amazing soundstage "  doesn't describe Sound Character much...
Only when i see a reviewer heard a headphone i have heard and what he describes is similar to what i hear , only then i continue to read direct comparison to other gear he write about.

If we don't use reference ( headphones we heard)  in order to describe headphone people haven't heard , it will be just words like "good separation"  " black background"  " airy"   but it won't mean much...
In other hand if the person heard t5p and says it sounds airy , i know whats " airy " is for that person , and can make sense of what he may say about a headphone i haven't heard ...

So it always makes sense to compare audio gear , if its about Sound Signature/Character.


P.s
i wouldn't call t5p portable anyway , i know beyerdynamic market t5p as portable headphone , but its far from it , in my opinion!
I use it in my home system only, outside it feels big and clumsy , i dislike the feel of ear pads moving when i walk and since t5p is very musical and engaging , you wanna pay attention to music, but when you outside you are distracted in many ways so its a tease and kind of pointless of having such a resolving / revealing headphone when you can't pay attention to it anyway.

I also think portable amps/dacs combos don't make t5p sing , simply not enough juice... drivers barely shaking , all sound thin and boring...

Hello. Very useful posts. Since I also own t5p and he400s and I want to change hifiman's to hd800. But one question. Can you in any way advise any portable amp for t5p. I own Aune b1, but it doesn't match. Have an idea to try a tube one Elekit hp01...
At home I use it with a 300b single end. Woks great I think...
Looking forward to buy a newly comming Aune x7 next month.

 

[Allanmarcus]

 

it does make sense, since the person who asked to compare those two indeed very different headphones , is not seeking advise about what is more suitable for portable use or in a main system at home.  Question was about Sound Character, and since this person owns t5p, its used as reference in order to get an idea what hd800 is.

I often read reviews, but words like " great bass "  or " amazing soundstage "  doesn't describe Sound Character much...
Only when i see a reviewer heard a headphone i have heard and what he describes is similar to what i hear , only then i continue to read direct comparison to other gear he write about.

If we don't use reference ( headphones we heard)  in order to describe headphone people haven't heard , it will be just words like "good separation"  " black background"  " airy"   but it won't mean much...
In other hand if the person heard t5p and says it sounds airy , i know whats " airy " is for that person , and can make sense of what he may say about a headphone i haven't heard ...

So it always makes sense to compare audio gear , if its about Sound Signature/Character.


P.s
i wouldn't call t5p portable anyway , i know beyerdynamic market t5p as portable headphone , but its far from it , in my opinion!
I use it in my home system only, outside it feels big and clumsy , i dislike the feel of ear pads moving when i walk and since t5p is very musical and engaging , you wanna pay attention to music, but when you outside you are distracted in many ways so its a tease and kind of pointless of having such a resolving / revealing headphone when you can't pay attention to it anyway.

I also think portable amps/dacs combos don't make t5p sing , simply not enough juice... drivers barely shaking , all sound thin and boring...

Hello. Very useful posts. Since I also own t5p and he400s and I want to change hifiman's to hd800. But one question. Can you in any way advise any portable amp for t5p. I own Aune b1, but it doesn't match. Have an idea to try a tube one Elekit hp01...
At home I use it with a 300b single end. Woks great I think...
Looking forward to buy a newly comming Aune x7 next month.

The SHA900 might be good since it has built in EQ. 

 

[Arttt]

ipad air sounds fine with t5p, I wouldn't bother with portable amps, too much money to spend and improvement is barely there...

Just run your t5p with iPhone or iPad if you wanna take it outside , it will sound good! If you want to get 100% of t5p use a powerful desktop amp, don't try to get the best of t5p with portable amps, it's a waste of time and money!