Best IEM tips?

[123peter]

@pawdiophile I'm impressed with your test.

If I am looking for tips:
1. with the widest possible bore, but so that there is no narrowing inside the barrel
a straight barrel from the insertion lip to the barrel.
2. at the same time, so that these tips are short , and the softest

Am I interpreting your description and photos correctly?
Which of these tips might be closest to what I am looking for?
No. 1 - TRI Clarion?
No. 2 - Divinus normal bore ?
(I know there is a version of them Dizinus Wide but it is a strange shape of the tip and they have a narrowing in barrel)

I also have a whole collection of tips but narrow, I am looking for an alternative to the original tips for the Oriolus Szalyi IEM - wide bore ,short nad soft.

 

[costabrothers]

SpinFits all the way.
super comfy, better seal than stock tips, and they don’t kill the treble like foam can. I’ve tried Final E and Comply too, but SpinFits just hit the sweet spot for me (I use the Mest Mk2 as reference btw). Worth trying a few types though

 

[Hypops]

@pawdiophile I'm impressed with your test.

If I am looking for tips:
1. with the widest possible bore, but so that there is no narrowing inside the barrel
a straight barrel from the insertion lip to the barrel.
2. at the same time, so that these tips are short , and the softest

Am I interpreting your description and photos correctly?
Which of these tips might be closest to what I am looking for?
No. 1 - TRI Clarion?
No. 2 - Divinus normal bore ?
(I know there is a version of them Dizinus Wide but it is a strange shape of the tip and they have a narrowing in barrel)

I also have a whole collection of tips but narrow, I am looking for an alternative to the original tips for the Oriolus Szalyi IEM - wide bore ,short nad soft.

Tri Clarion might be what you're looking for. Wide bore and short. I currently use them with the Kiwi Ears Punch. You might also want to look into a set of original JVC Spiral Dot. Not as short, but wide bore.

 

[123peter]

Tri Clarion might be what you're looking for. Wide bore and short. I currently use them with the Kiwi Ears Punch. You might also want to look into a set of original JVC Spiral Dot. Not as short, but wide bore.

When writing JVC Spiral Dot which model are you thinking of,,which has the widest barrel along its entire length:
EP-FX-9M-B, EP-FX10,EP-FX11 or EP-FX12 there are several models.

Manufacturers also do not help by stating that you can put on a tip from 4mm to 6mm with a large tolerance.

I will also stretch a very narrow tip, no, that is not the way to make it deformed. That is why I am looking for the widest possible but short one.

 

[Cthulhu2104]

I've finally received the Divinus Prism, and I got to say, for my ears (largeish canals, sensitive and deep-insert averse), they are awesome.
I think the bulbous Divinus signature shape works really well for me, and the liquid silicone texture is grippy and soft. Small ears beware, perhaps the shape+wide (wide!) bore combo might be too much.
I'd be curious about a hypothetical "normal bore" Prism, if they ever make those!
Regarding effect on sound, maybe a bit of illusion of a larger stage, and I didn't hear a hit on bass (using them on Kz PRX, this might be nozzle dependant).
By the way, having received the tips and a couple cables, I have reminded myself the extent to which cables can impact comfort and fit (no changes to sound, that's plain old cowpoop), especially the shape of the 2 pin connectors: even a slight rotation can change the nozzle angle into the ear canal, it's night and day!

 

[Hypops]

When writing JVC Spiral Dot which model are you thinking of,,which has the widest barrel along its entire length:
EP-FX-9M-B, EP-FX10,EP-FX11 or EP-FX12 there are several models.

Manufacturers also do not help by stating that you can put on a tip from 4mm to 6mm with a large tolerance.



I will also stretch a very narrow tip, no, that is not the way to make it deformed. That is why I am looking for the widest possible but short one.

The EP-FX9M-B. How much it stretches/expands depends on the size of the IEM nozzle (obvs). If you want short and wide, check out the Divinus Wide Bore or the Tri Clarion.

The reason most wide bores narrow is so that they actually fit and stay on your IEM nozzle. I've got a couple tips with very wide bores that don't narrow and they have never fit on any of the 20 or so IEMs I've tried them on. I wouldn't recommend them personally.

 

[galaxygrrl]

@pawdiophile I'm impressed with your test.

If I am looking for tips:
1. with the widest possible bore, but so that there is no narrowing inside the barrel
a straight barrel from the insertion lip to the barrel.
2. at the same time, so that these tips are short , and the softest

Am I interpreting your description and photos correctly?
Which of these tips might be closest to what I am looking for?
No. 1 - TRI Clarion?
No. 2 - Divinus normal bore ?
(I know there is a version of them Dizinus Wide but it is a strange shape of the tip and they have a narrowing in barrel)

I also have a whole collection of tips but narrow, I am looking for an alternative to the original tips for the Oriolus Szalyi IEM - wide bore ,short nad soft.

AEX70
Eletech Baroques
Divinus Velvet...

 

[123peter]

The EP-FX9M-B. How much it stretches/expands depends on the size of the IEM nozzle (obvs). If you want short and wide, check out the Divinus Wide Bore or the Tri Clarion.

The reason most wide bores narrow is so that they actually fit and stay on your IEM nozzle. I've got a couple tips with very wide bores that don't narrow and they have never fit on any of the 20 or so IEMs I've tried them on. I wouldn't recommend them personally.

Please give me those models with a very wide bore along the entire length, without any narrowing in the barrel - I'll take the risk.

 

[kjinxd]

@pawdiophile I'm impressed with your test.

If I am looking for tips:
1. with the widest possible bore, but so that there is no narrowing inside the barrel
a straight barrel from the insertion lip to the barrel.
2. at the same time, so that these tips are short , and the softest

Am I interpreting your description and photos correctly?
Which of these tips might be closest to what I am looking for?
No. 1 - TRI Clarion?
No. 2 - Divinus normal bore ?
(I know there is a version of them Dizinus Wide but it is a strange shape of the tip and they have a narrowing in barrel)

I also have a whole collection of tips but narrow, I am looking for an alternative to the original tips for the Oriolus Szalyi IEM - wide bore ,short nad soft.

You really should give the Infiter IE45 short a try. Fits your description and available in both 40 duro soft but reasonably thick silicone as well as SMP ifit. Despite being intended for tws they work really well with iems. Its my preferred tip when i need to get as close to the eardrum as possible to reduce weird hf peaks. Other contenders would be bgvp w1, whizzer ss20/kbear 4540.

 

[frkasper]

Well, it is that time of the month and my ear canals are well lubricated this afternoon.

For some selected folks out there, this certainly works in your favor. It should be mandatory that oily skin persons to have a Coreir set (Brass or Al Alloy) in the eartips arsenal, if budget is not a concern. Moving forward, I am going to repeat this as a mantra. And, as far as pain is concerned...

Sound quality pays off. "Trust me, bro".

 

[ALRAINBOW]

Large bore may not make a better seal nor can it be the right seal .
I have large bore ear canals . My ciem show it . But like most here have draws filled with tips .
A good example is I have two pairs of Sennheiser tw3 ear buds . Black and gray . Why well just too many buds , but I can say I watched a few videos on tips and how to judge them.
Went back to try again , started with stock
Largest top too lol .
Passed the test in the app , not all that are large do pass .
Next is sound , foamies seal the best at the expense of proper sound
Timbre is very important and changing the EQ to fix it is not always best . I am old have some hearing loss not much but do .
I used eq if that bud needs it
Foamies role off highs and also lows and this messes up the timbre
Loss of ambience sound shows this too.
ear tips in general are the most important thing and why ciem is best but not always practical .
So back to two pairs of same buds
One uses stock large tip passes test
Sounds ok but to me lacks some highs and ambience around notes on piano stricks .
The other uses a tip that looks very much like the stock but is less a dome more a plug shaped . Pases test same EQ setting , sound better then stock. Has better attack better timbre .
You can play louder or mess more with eq but this effects timbre and makes music have more peaks .
Look up some videos man what I have learned and pushed me to try all again
Some tips are made to clarify sounds they work . But in some videos what the person says is the maker made the sound and knew how there tips matter . Change it is a slippery slope
Ps I love foamies and use them too . But be aware how much any tips matters .
That metal incert works by not absorbing and sounds , but can reflect sound and have its own kind of effect . What brand / model are they

 

[leeperry]

SpinFits all the way.
super comfy, better seal than stock tips, and they don’t kill the treble like foam can. I’ve tried Final E and Comply too, but SpinFits just hit the sweet spot for me (I use the Mest Mk2 as reference btw). Worth trying a few types though

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[Hypops]

Please give me those models with a very wide bore along the entire length, without any narrowing in the barrel - I'll take the risk.

One is a generic set of foams. No idea where to direct you for those, sorry. The other is a set of Spinfit CP155, but those are also very long and conical. Stupidly wide bore. Neither will stay put on even the widest nozzles.

 

[AndreRitter]

Tri Clarion might be what you're looking for. Wide bore and short. I currently use them with the Kiwi Ears Punch. You might also want to look into a set of original JVC Spiral Dot. Not as short, but wide bore.

They're a great tip but while the bulbous section might be fairly short they do add some length through the long barrel.

 

[Hypops]

They're a great tip but while the bulbous section might be fairly short they do add some length through the long barrel.

Yup. But for me, the concave structure (that narrows toward the end of the tip) is essentially a "freebie" insofar as it just goes deeper into my ear without really adding to the perceived length. Yet another reason--among many others--why there's nothing for it but to try every tip for yourself.